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Any help or clues as to where to look next would be a great help to us.

I am helping my friend look for someone in her tree.We are well and truly
stuck

The information we have is
Name James Abbott
Year of birth: 1824
Year of death: 1897

Place of birth: Whimple Devon

Place of death: Birstal
Notes:
Spouse name: Ann Ware
Place of marriage: Chawliegh St James
Date of marriage: 30.7.1850

We have looked on all sites we can think of to try and find him , my friend has ordered all bapt records from Devon area, people from Devon FHS have tried to find him too

He is my friends G grandfather and we are really banging our heads against a huge brickwall with trying to find him.

Please can anyone help or just give us some clues as to where else we can try.

Thanks
Jan

Have you bought his marriage certificate which would give his fathers name and occupation, the witnesses and the place of residence in 1850? You dont mention his father in the above info.

Where HAVE you found him/them - what census? What info are you looking for?

This is the marriage ref - you can order the cert from GRO online for £7 (never pay more - there are some scam sites using similar names to the official site)
Marriages Sep 1850 (>99%)
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>>>Abbott James Crediton 10 91
Elworthy John Crediton 10 91
Reed Caroline Crediton 10 91
>>>Ware Anne Crediton 10 91

1881 presumably

James Abbott
Age: 57
Estimated birth year: abt 1824
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Whimble, Devon, England

Civil parish: Crofton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: Cottage
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Railway Labourer

Registration district: Wakefield
Sub-registration district: Sandal
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Abbott 55
Elizabeth Abbott 7
James Abbott 57
Tom Abbott 19
Mark Bent 29

1871
James Abbott
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Anne
Gender: Male
Where born: Whimple, Devon, England

Civil parish: Milverton
Town: Milverton
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England



Registration district: Wellington
Sub-registration district: Milverton
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 110
Household Members:
Name Age
Anne Abbott 44
James Abbott 44
James Abbott 18
Jesse Abbott 6
Tom Abbott 9
William Abbott 15

1891
James Abbott
Age: 65
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Anne
Gender: Male
Where born: Whimple, Devon, England

Civil parish: Acton Grange
Ecclesiastical parish: Walton Superior St John
Town: Acton Grange
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England


Registration district: Runcorn
Sub-registration district: Daresbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Anne Abbott 63
James Abbott 65
Thomas Abbott 4
Tom Abbott 29
William Abbott 3
William Bostock 37
Stephen Bottling 64
Thomas Huckfield 57
Charles Walker 61

Is this James & Ann in 1851? - Ancestry

Name: James Abbott
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Plymouth, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Chawleigh
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Crediton
Sub-registration district: Morchard
ED, institution, or vessel: 4b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 83
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Abbott 24
James Abbott 24
Mary A Abbott 2

1861
Name: James Abbott
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Anne
Gender: Male
Where born: Whimple, Devon, England

Civil parish: Ottery St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Ottery St Mary
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Registration district: Honiton
Sub-registration district: Ottery St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
Anne Abbott 33
Harry Abbott 3
James Abbott 33
James Abbott 9
William Abbott 6
Robert Channon 35
William Gavel 23

His place of birth is listed as Whimple in all of the censuses apart from the 1851 census where it clearly reads Plymouth.

Has anyone checked the baptisms in and around Plymouth - just in case

Pete

I think ann is just wanting the baptism details but his age does vary by 4 years in the census info.

I think we need to wait to see what ann actually has already and what is really wanted. The IGI gives a number of "suitable" baptisms, particularly in the Clawton area where they seem to have a connection but if ann's friend has had all the baps from that area and the FHS cant find the right one ..............

Having had a google, it seems the nearest town is Ottery st Mary.

There is also an on line parish clerk for Whimple who invites requests for look ups:

[email protected]

Try contacting the online parish clerk, as above. (You found the son James info now?)

1841 if this is him then no clue as to parents

Name: James Abbett
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Gender: Male
Where born: Devon, England

Civil Parish: Whimple
Hundred: Cliston
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: St Thomas
Sub-registration district: Broad Clyst
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Abbett 14
Ann Broom 25
Sarah Carnell 20
William Harding 50
Sarah Poske 75
John Prescott 50
Sarah Roen 25

Glitter Baby
We are sure that is him

Thanks everyone for your input

Found the other one lost in piles of paperwork while sorting what info I had on this family .
Sorry to have put you all out helping me on the son James but you have helped to make me sort out while I am sat looking after the dog after her op yesterday

Would still appreciate any help on the Father of James born 1824

Thanks again for all your help. We will find him one day if we get a JCB to knock the wall down lol