Genealogy Chat

but its PIGNE not PIGUE on the printed page of Ancestry.

BUT ARHHHHHHHHH

the plot thickens !! further down the same page is Louisa PIGUE same Ref

We know William was dead by 1906 from a newspaper report in the Dover Express 12/1/0/1906 reporting his death in a boating accident along with his father in law Henry Irons all residing at Athol Terrace, Dover.

I reckon too thats worth getting the cert

We know William was dead by 1906 from a newspaper report in the Dover Express 12/1/0/1906 reporting his death in a boating accident along with his father in law Henry Irons all residing at Athol Terrace, Dover.

Hi Susan

I thought we'd ascertained that the marriage cert was the wrong one? What was William's occupation on Minnies birth cert?

Angela

So they may have married elsewhere but returned to Dover to live with Aunt &Uncle again and had minnie in 1905

Uncle Irons was a fisherman on both census found

I don't see deaths for either of them. Odd.

Rose

This William's a "Crain driver" but he's married:

1901 England Census
about William H Green
Name: William H Green
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Greenwich
Civil Parish: St Clement
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
Town: Sandwich
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Eastry
Sub-registration district: Sandwich
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Green 36
William H Green 38

Rose

Susan,

Can you check this date again

12/1/0/1906

Rose

Neither can I Rose, unless the accident was out of British waters?

(I must go to bed in a minute :-))

Rose, I think the William Green who Susan's got the marriage cert for is the wrong one - we need to know the occupation of the one on the birth cert of Minnie.

Angela

Well I know its a coincidence but in the Dover Express and also an account of the inquest as it appeared in the East Kent News for Friday 12th October 1906 .
"Terrible Boat Accident" Three Boatmen Drowned.
Henry Irons, William Cole, coxswain of the Dover Lifeboat, Green, the son-in-law of Irons and Fred Richards. There is about three pages of it.
Im getting more and more confused but its exciting!
Sue

Did it say how old William Green was in the article?

Bearing in mind they may have married in Yorkshire, could this possibly be William in 1901?

William Green
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Crew
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Royal Navy
Town: Sheerness
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Sheppey
Sub-registration district: Minster
ED, institution, or vessel: Wildfire (3)

PLEASE buy that marriage cert, Susan!

Angela

Hi everyone,
The occupation of William Green on Minnie's birth cert is letter carrier and in the newspaper articles about his death it says william green was sometimes employed as a postman at the post office. He was formally a soldier, and served through the african war, known as soldier bill!.
Regards Sue x

So that 1901 one I found is probably not him - wrong service.

Well it certainly is a puzzle Angela, and most of the family were deceased or moved away before I was able to ask questions, but hopefully with all the help I have been getting we may be able to find out something? Regards to all. Sue

WELL !!!! we tried

Hi Shirley and Angela and Portland Rose,
I am very grateful for all your help, I will order some certs and see what comes back. I will let you know. But please keep in touch.
Sue X

I guess we won't find him in 1901 if he was in the Boer War.

Rose

I'm sure the Louisa Pigne/Pigue is the correct marriage. All other transcribed instances of Pigue or Pigne on FreeBMD also have Pique on the same page.

Rose

Susan,

This looks like another daughter:

1881 England Census
about Fanny Pique
Name: Fanny Pique
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Dover, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Dover St James
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: 1 Castle Place
Education:
Registration district: Dover
Sub-registration district: St James
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Susannah Irons 60
Fanny Pique 5

Rose