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i need a bit of help please

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KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 14 Oct 2007 00:11

This is the 1901 census that you found:-

Name: Bertie Henry Nicholls
Age: 5 months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry Frank
Mother's Name: Sarah Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Braintree, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Braintree
Ecclesiastical parish: Braintree St Michael and All Angels
Town: Braintree
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address: Coggershall Road

Occupation: Father was a Butcher's slaughterman

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Braintree
Sub-registration district: Braintree
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 36
Household Members: Name Age

Aubrey Frank Nicholls 3
Bertie Henry Nicholls 5 months
Henry Frank Nicholls 32
Sarah Ann Nicholls 31

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1727; Folio: 32; Page: 7.

I agree with Summer Scribe that parents often named two children with the same first name (perhaps after a grandfather) and then used their middle name on a daily basis.

You definitely need to get the birth certificate for Bertie Charles to see if his parent's names were Henry Frank and Sarah Ann, as in the family above. Do you know whether or not your grandfather was known as Bertie or Charles?

Kath. x

~Summer Scribe~

~Summer Scribe~ Report 13 Oct 2007 23:48

Having had a look I would say that you need to get Bertie's birth certificate. I couldn't see a death for Bertie Henry, but it's not unusual for families to call two kids the same (and then use a middle name on a daily basis). It's the only Nicholls (of any variaton) in Braintree, so it could still be your family, the birth cert would tell you as they were kind enough to put middle names on their census returns.

~Summer Scribe~

~Summer Scribe~ Report 13 Oct 2007 23:34

If you know his father's name, don't forget to check for variations of how nicholls could be spelt. It could be the right family...look to see if Bertie Henry died in that year, they may have named their next son after him. As Jill has said. Bertie Charles won't be on the 1901 census as he was born after it was taken, but his parents should be.

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 13 Oct 2007 23:31

Which one is your grandad? If he is Bertie Charles then he will not be on the 1901 census as it was taken in March/April 1901. The only thing you can do to check his parents/siblings is to send off for his birth certificate which will give you his dad's name and his mother's maiden name.

Births Dec 1900 (>99%)
Nicholls Bertie Henry Braintree 4a 791 Scan available - click to view

Births Dec 1901 (>99%)
NICHOLLS Bertie Charles Braintree 4a 849

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 13 Oct 2007 23:29

Do you have your grandad's birth certificate?

Was he born after April 1901? If he was he won't show on the census.

Paula

Paula Report 13 Oct 2007 23:27

hi i know who my granparents are and were they were born ive been on the censours and i keep getting the same family .last name nicholls . but on the censours it as my grandads middle name down as bertie henry and not bertie charles would ther be a reason for this does anyone know .would you please contact me .my grandad was bertie charles nicholls 1901 born in braintree essex .