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I only have the name of G/Grandfather on the marriage cert to G/Grandmother. no one alive to help, and not alot of info in the family as this ( as family talk has it ) turned out to be a bigamous
marriage ? what can i do to get any futher ?
G/Grandfather- Henry Wallace / Coachman
His father - William Wallace / Painter
G/Grandmother - Mary Jane Nutting
Her father - Charles Mullings - Mason
Marriage was in the presence of - Henry Hobson and Henry hammond
At St Johns Church District- St John Holloway, London

Put the details here - both names - names of fathers - names of witnesses - when and where the marriage took place and see if anyone can find anything for you.

If it was a bigamous marriage there may well have been a newspaper report at the time. (I found one of mine in the Times - but it was back in 1869 and I don't think they had a lot of news that day!)

Jill

Hi Tamara
The marriage cert should have the name of the fathers and occupations. ...and place......then you can look in the censuses...I am hoping this is before 1901....
Give us the details and we'll look....
Joan

Hi Joan
Thanks for the reply, they married in 1903 details on marriage cert;
G/Grand - Henry Wallace - Coachman
His father - William Wallace - Painter
G/Grandmother - Mary Jane Nutting
Her father- Charles Mullings ( dec) - Mason
In the presence of - Henry Hobson and Henry Hammond at St Johns, Holloway, London

Hi Jill
Thanks for reply will try news reports and have add mre info to request

ThanksTamara
i have been looking in the censuses but can't find anyone who seems right....will try again tomorrow.
Joan

does it say how old the bride and groom are on the marriage certificate?

That could give us a clue as to how far back to go looking at censuses, or possible first marriage.



sylvia

The other thing is that the bride's name is Nutting but you say it says her father's name in Mullings. Is this right?
I looked at the marriage entry and it does say Mary Jane Nutting and not Mullings.

Who is the one supposed to have committed bigamy?

Jennifer

Clutching at straws!! see below. Henry's occupation is Coachman.
Henry Wallace
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Brother-in-law
Gender: Male
Where born: St Martins, London, England

Civil Parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne Brookfield
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: St Pancras
Sub-registration district: Kentish Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 341
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Wallace 29
Edwin F Weddell 8
Ernest Weddell 6 months
Frederick H Weddell 40
Rosehannah M Weddell 31
William Weddell 6

RG13; Piece: 156; Folio: 106; Page: 55.

Just for giggles (and because I have an overdue job), here's Mary Jane -- following on LfW's hard work, of course!


Name: Mary Jane Mullings
Year of Registration: 1858
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Chippenham
County: Wiltshire
Volume: 5a
Page: 52


1861:

Name: Mary Mullings
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Eliza
Gender: Female
Where born: Colerne, Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Colerne
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Registration district: Chippenham
Sub-registration district: Corsham
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 93

Household Members: Name Age
Charles Mullings 42
Eliza Mullings 42
Fanny Mullings 8
George Mullings 21
Henry Mullings 11
James Mullings 1
John Mullings 10
Mary Mullings 3
Thomas Mullings 4
William Mullings 7


1891:

Name: Mary Nutting
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John W
Gender: Female
Where born: Colerne, Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Clerkenwell
Ecclesiastical parish: Clerkenwell St James
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: St James Clerkenwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 8

Household Members: Name Age
Alice Nutting 6
Daisey Nutting 4
Fredrick Nutting 3
John Nutting 8
John W Nutting 36
Mary Nutting 33
Thomas Nutting 7
William Nutting 6/12


Probably should have gone for 1901 ... the kids were still a'coming, it seems.

We still need the groom's age at the marriage ...

Tamara,


Have you seen all this help???

WOW ! all this help i need a few days to plough through it, i'm glad i have a contact in Canada as my G/Grandmothers fist marriage to John Nutting, the children from this marriage emigrated to Canada so i'm trying to sort them on the side of this. But the above on wallace looks promising and he's the one i have no info on as it was said he was the bigamist.

Thankyou for your help this is wonderfull, Henry Wallace's age on Marriage cert. 34 and Mary janes is 44, they both have widower in the conditions box, but family talk said my grandfather never knew his father becasue of the other marriage G/Nan apparently was in court for it, thats why in the 60's he changed his name to Nutting.

The bigamist was Henry Wallace, he apparently had another wife and two boys somewhere else in london, and because the neighbours were talking about my G/Grandmother and her illegitimate child.
she was married before to John willis nutting who died of TB, i have the details on this.

Kathry thanks for info your right, i do have Mary Janes info and as we live near where she was born my mother ( who's family this is ) and i are gonna take a trip there soon.

Thank you everyone for all your help, i'm new to this and have been looking for a while, it looks like i've (you all ) found just what i wanted what a lovely surprise for my mother when i show her. you all did it so quick. Thanks

I did the least, so I'll say "you're welcome" from all of us.

I'd meant to ask -- you mentioned the emigrations to Canada and having a contact to find records there. If I can help at all with access to censuses and bmds, let me know! (I'm going to be buried with work once Parliament resumes here next week, but I'm always up for a little procrastination ...)

Kathryn
Thanks for the offer to help with Canada, i'll piece all this together an come back to you, sounds as if your be very busy.
If you do get bored ! The emigrations were the Nuttings ( John Willis Nutting and Mary jane Nuttings children ) I do have a long !! list of names from census. My mothers family are a mixture her mothers side were russian Jews !!!!!!!!