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I wonder if this is John Sr, but it does say Bricklayer

1881

John Aylwand
Age: 63
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Newington, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Bermondsey
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 60 St James Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Bricklayer

Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: St James Bermondsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 28a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Catherine Aylwand 60
John Aylwand 63
Ann Gardener 21
Fanny Gardener 18
Francis Gardener 61
James Gardener 62
John S. Gardener 10
Briggit White 21

Hi Brenda
That's the conundrum. In 1891 he’s listed as born abt 1866 Bermondsey but if I follow the trail back in 1861 he’s born abt 1858 (8 years difference)
Am I definitely on the wrong trail even though his father’s occupation is correct?
Caz

Hi Caz on the later census where does it say john junior was born and in what year?
Brenda

I have John Aylward and Hannah Cracknell married April 1884, Newington/Bermondsey Surrey, both listed as minors on their marriage certificate (ie between 14-21 so born between 1863 and 1870) and John’s father John listed occupation as a Carman.
I am trying to trace back John’s family to his father through the census (I’m looking to find the next generation back)and the only John Aylward I can come up with that is a Carman is in the 1861 census after that he disappears and his wife is shown as a widow from 1871 onwards. John Aylward junior is nowhere to be found in 1881 just prior to his marriage although I can find him with his wife and children in 1891 and 1901
My questions are
If I AM on to the right family it makes John Aylward (the groom) 25 so why was he noted as a minor?
If any one has the time can they give this a fresh pair of eyes and help me find John junior in 1881?
Cheers!
Caz
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