Genealogy Chat

Hello
I am stumped. My Great grandmother is listed as a widow on the 1901 census and my Grandmother's birth was registered the next year- June quarter 1902. I haven't purchased her birth record yet and cannot find her father's death anywhere. I assume my GGM was pregnant at the time of the census or/and the birth may have been registered late. What should I do to be certain/
Gail

I would buy the birth cert. Could be the father was killed in the Boer War.

Can you list the details?

Rose

Gail,

Could be interesting!!

The 1901 Census was taken on the night of 31 March 1901.

You say your grandmother's birth was registered June quarter 1902 (ie, in April, May or June)

I believe births have to be registered within 6 weeks, so that means she was born somewhere between March to end June 1902. The earliest would have been mid-February, with registration at the beginning of April (if my maths is correct!).

That's about a year after your ggm says she was widowed!


Sylvia

Thanks Rose & Sylvia
My Great grandfather was Herbert Haigh b 1862 (in Tickhill/ East Retford I believe) married to Fanny Holland in 1887. My grandmother was Sarah b. 1902.
Gail

How sure are you that you have got the correct birth record.

Roy

Tickhill comes under Doncaster registration district and not East Retford

DONCASTER REGISTRATION DISTRICT
Registration County : Yorkshire West Riding.
Created : 1.7.1837.
Sub-districts : Barnbrough; Bawtry; Bawtry & Tickhill; Campsall; Doncaster; Doncaster First; Doncaster Second; Tickhill
GRO volumes : XXII (1837-51); 9c (1852-1946); 2B (1946-74).

EAST RETFORD REGISTRATION DISTRICT
Registration County : Nottinghamshire.
Created : 1.7.1837.
Sub-districts : Clarborough; East Retford; Gringley; Tunford.
GRO volumes : XV (1837-51); 7b (1852-1946); 3C (1946-74).



Roy

is this Herberts birth

Name: Herbert Haigh
Year of Registration: 1861
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Doncaster
County: Lincolnshire, Nottinghamshire, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 431

Roy

This will be the marriage........

Herbert Haigh 1887 Oct-Nov-Dec Caistor Lincolnshire
Fanny Holland 1887 Oct-Nov-Dec Caistor Lincolnshire

Is this the correct entry from the 1901 census?

Name: Fanny Haigh
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Collingham, Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: North Retford
Ecclesiastical parish: Clarborough St John the Baptist and Walbrook St Saviour
Town: Retford
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Registration district: East Retford
Sub-registration district: Clarborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 178
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Haigh 13
Arthur Haigh 11
Fanny Haigh 33
Harry Haigh 3
Walter Haigh 7

Hubby is missing in 1891.........although she says she's married

Name: Fanny Haigh
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Head
Where born: Collingham, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Clarborough
Ecclesiastical parish: Clarborough
Town: Moorgate
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England


Registration district: East Retford
Sub-registration district: Clarborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Haigh 3
Arthur Haigh 4/12
Fanny Haigh 25

Reg

Herbert's with his mother in 1891............

Name: Herbert Haigh
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Mary G
Gender: Male
Where born: Tickhill Spital, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Torworth
Ecclesiastical parish: Blyth
Town: Torworth
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England


Registration district: East Retford
Sub-registration district: Clarborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Herbert Haigh 29
Mary G Haigh 59
Thomas Haigh 9

Is Thomas his son? Or the son of a brother?

Reg

Hrllo
I am almost positive on the birth of Sarah and as far as Thomas goes I am thinking he is a nephew of Herbert. Herbert had 2 brothers Arthur and Sidney who may have passed away and left Thomas with Grandma. He is still with her on the 1901.

Births have to be registered within 6 weeks now,but not so in the early 1900's. My mother was born Dec 1907 but not registered until March 1908.

I would work on the assumption that the birth was registered late ... unless of course they had been living apart for some time and she had another man. Otherwise it would be a bit sudden wouldn't it? Be interesting to see if father's name appears on birth cert though.

Jill

He was named on Sarah's marriage certificate. I think it was registered late.
Gail

He was named on Sarah's marriage certificate. I think the birth was registered late.
Gail

Names of fathers on marriage certs don't prove anything, unfortunately.

Reg

True enough Reg but I am confident that Herbert is Sarah's father.
How would I find out if her went to fight in the Boer War? I have tried several sites with soldiers' names but he was not listed.
Gail

If he was in the Boer War, why would his wife describe herself as a widow?

Reg

Well since I can't find him on the BMD (or can't find a match that seems close) I thought he may have died out of the country in the war.
Gail