Genealogy Chat

I AM DOING MY FAMILY TREE OBVOIUSLY. MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER WAS IVY BREARLEY NEE KEIGHLEY, I WAS ALWAYS LED TO BELIEVE THAT SHE WAS BORN IN DEC 1902, EVEN ON HER DEATH CERTIFICATE IT SAYS THAT. I TRIED SEARCHING FOR THE BIRTH WITH THEM DETAILS WITH NOTHING SHE WASN'T THERE. BUT I HAVE FOUND A IVY KEIGHLEY BORN IN 1901, SHE IS ON THE CENSUS FOR THAT YEAR AS 0 YEARS. COULD ANYBODY TELL ME WEATHER MISTAKES LIKE THIS COULD OF BEING MADE OVER THE YEARS, I MEAN SURELY ON HER DEATH CERTIFICATE IT WOULD BE RIGHT WOULDN'T IT.... IF THIS CENSUS IS RIGHT I HAVE FOUND OUT SHE HAD 4 BROTHERS AND 1 SISTER MORE THAN I EVER KNEW.

At a guess the 1900 birth registration is correct. A birth late 1900 may not be registered until 1901 birthdate at death is only as the person who registers the death remembers, I really wouldn't let it worry you as its only a year out. Sue

Hi kelly, have you any idea where she may have been born? There is one on ancestry, born in the 3rd quarter 1902 in bramley - could this be it? vicky

Mistakes can easily happen over time. You need Ivy's marriage certificate, which hopefully will show her father's name and occupation, then you can judge whether or not they are the family you found in the census. Do you have an idea when Ivy married?....Oldest child? Gwyn

Births Mar 1903 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keighley Ivy N. Bierley 9b 200 The district N. Bierley is an alternative name for North Bierley and it is in the county of West Riding of Yorkshire could this be her June x

HI ALL JUST READ ALL YOUR MESSAGES THANKS. I GOT CARRIED AWAY READING EVERYTHING ELSE ON HER. IVY KEIGHLEY ALL I KNEW GROWING UP IS SHE WAS BORN 28/12/02, AND DIED IN OCT 1994. SHE MARRIED HAROLD BREARLEY DON'T KNOW WHEN HAVEN'T GOT A CLUE WHERE TO START WITH THAT ONE YET. THEY HAD MY GRANDAD ALEC RAYMOND BREARLEY BORN JAN 1940. OTHER THAN WHEN ALL THREE DIED THAT ALL INFO I HAVE. OH YEAH AND DISTRICT WAS BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE WELL THATS WHERE I GREW UP ANYWHERE. AND THATS ALSO WHERE THEY DIED AND MOST OF MY FAMILY STILL ARE. IF THIS IVY IS THE RIGHT ONE THEN SHE WAS BORN IN HUNSLET YORKSHIRE. THANKS EVERYONE

Kelly Unless you have Ivy's birth cert, there is no way you can be sure when she was born. The fact that her death cert gives a particular date is no guarantee of accuracy. You need to find her marriage, and find out how old she said she was then........also the name and occupation of her father, which will help with pinning down the family in the 1901 census. Can I ask you also, please, to use normal type if possible......instead of all uppr case. Thanks Reg

Your message says that Alec Raymond Brearley was born in 1940.............is this his death reg'n? Name: Alec Raymond Brearley Birth Date: 17 Jan 1938 Death Registration Month/Year: Oct 1992 Age at death (estimated): 54 Registration district: Bradford Inferred County: Yorkshire Volume: 4 Page: 84 Was Alec the eldest of the children of the marriage? Reg

yeah that him 1938 not 1940 i checked my notes it was his wife that was 1940. yes that is their son. (Ivy and Harolds) cheers p.s where did you get that info. on the death cert on this site it doesn't give an age or a page etc... i'm new to all this and don't really know where else to get info from. thanks again

I'd say that the birth that June found in March qtr, of 1903 is likely to be the right one. If the birth was on 28th Dec. then they probably wouldn't have had time to register the birth until the New Year. The indexes are when the births were registered and not when the births took place. N. Brierly is in Bradford. Kath. x

The death reg'n is from the Ancestry website. Any info about whether Alec was the eldest? Reg

Alec was the only child as far as i know. No one ever mentioned another sibling.

Hi Kelly The registers show the quarter a birth was registed rather than the month born. So if she was born 28/12/1902 then chances are her birth wouldnt have been registered til Jan 1903 so the reference June found in Mar 1903 is most likely her. You can order the cert and see if the dob matches but it is advisable to get marriage cert first so you can match fathers name. Did your granddad have older siblings? Jacqui

Yeah i just found the 1903 register with a Ivy Keighley on. Maybe that one is the more accurate one not the 1901. No my grandad was the only child they had as far as i am aware. I'm trying to find out when my gt grandmother and gt grandfather got married, but had no luck as yet. Thanks Kelly

If Ivy was born within the first few years of 1900s, she was not young, when she had her son. Maybe she married relatively late....or maybe she had been married before? Gwyn

I've checked 1935-1937...no sign of the marriage Reg

Hi, Have found the marriage Sept Qtr 1927 Ivy Keighley to Harold Brearley District N Brierley Vol 9b Page 191 Steph

Well done Steph. I will search up to 1930 incl for any children. ....NONE found. Gwyn

Hi everyone i'm back being looking for the marriage, but had no luck. But just thought i'd check to see if i had any more replys before i switched off. Thank you to steph it looks like he found the marriage, Harold was registered in district N.Bierley, turns out so was Ivy, so they must of married there too. I'm going to check it out now to see what info i can find. Thank you to you all you've being fantastic. A big thank you to steph I've being looking for this marriage all night now and haven't being able to. I didn't do pre 30,s. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you. Kelly xxx

Kelly, You're very welcome. Let us know if there's any more help we can give you. Steph