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Hector Willmore help needed please

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Whisky Soda

Whisky Soda Report 17 Aug 2007 16:00

Hi everyone I have Hector Willmore on the 1901 census with his father Edward, there are both lodgers, please see below for the 1901 census. He was born in 1885, but I cannot see him on the 1891, I have his father on the 1891, but Hector is not there, can someone else see him please. Thanks Ann

Whisky Soda

Whisky Soda Report 17 Aug 2007 16:01

Here is the 1901 Hector Willmore Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Greenfield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Norden Ecclesiastical parish: Norden St Paul County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: Rochdale Sub-registration district: Spotland Further Side ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 93 Household Members: Name Age John Chapman 48 Mary Chapman 54 Charles A Hall 16 Edward Willmore 56 Hector Willmore 16 View Original Record View original image View blank form Save This Record Attach this record to a person in your tree as a source record, or save for later evaluation. Save Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3838; Folio: 156; Page: 13.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Aug 2007 16:04

There is a big gap between Kate and Hector......... Reg

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 17 Aug 2007 16:11

It doesn't say on the 1901 census that Hector is Edward's son, only that they're both lodgers.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Aug 2007 16:20

1871 Name: Edward Willmore Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Susannah Gender: Male Where born: Padbury, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Padbury Ecclesiastical parish: Padbury Town: Padbury County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Buckingham Sub-registration district: Buckingham ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 66 Household Members: Name Age Catherine Willmore 9 months Edward Willmore 29 Rebecca Willmore 23 Susannah Willmore 73 reg

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Aug 2007 16:23

Possible death for Catherine's mother Name: Rebecca Willmore Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Year of Registration: 1874 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Age at Death: 25 District: Buckingham County: Buckinghamshire, Northamptonshire, Oxfordshire Volume: 3a Page: 340 Reg

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Aug 2007 16:27

The marriage cert might help......... Name: Hector Willmore Year of Registration: 1904 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Rochdale County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire Volume: 8e Page: 42 Reg

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 17 Aug 2007 16:29

Rebecca Willmore died in 1874, Buckingham, aged 25 so she couldn't be the mother of Hector. Oops, Reg beat me to it!

Whisky Soda

Whisky Soda Report 17 Aug 2007 17:05

Hi All thanks for all your input, Edward married for a second time to Susannah Miills, in 1874 just after Rebecca died , this is Edward mistranscribed in 1881 Edward Williams Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Susan Gender: Male Where born: Sudbury, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Saddleworth County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 27 Binn Green Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View Image Occupation: General Laborer Registration district: Saddleworth Sub-registration district: Upper Mill ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Dawson 25 Richard Morsley 43 Fred Philips 27 Benjamin Thornton 45 Catherine Williams 9 Edward Williams 36 Emily Williams 15 Susan Williams 45 I dont know who Emily is but Catherine is Kate

Whisky Soda

Whisky Soda Report 17 Aug 2007 17:06

Also i cannnot find a record of Hectors birth although he is born in the right area where the family were between 1881-1891 they later moved to the Rossendale Valley

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Aug 2007 17:14

Death? of wife number two? Name: Susannah Willmore Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Year of Registration: 1891 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Age at Death: 57 District: Huddersfield County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire Volume: 9a Page: 289 Reg

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Aug 2007 17:20

Emily is described as Edward's daughter in 1881 Not sure why she isn't with them in 1871........he seems to have made a habit of 'losing' his offspring!! Reg

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Aug 2007 17:30

First marriage......... Rebecca Gibbard 1868 Jul-Aug-Sep Buckingham Buckinghamshire, Northamptonshire, Oxfordshire Edward Willmore 1868 Jul-Aug-Sep Buckingham Buckinghamshire, Northamptonshire, Oxfordshire It seems that Emily was born prior to this marriage......so whose child was she? Reg

Whisky Soda

Whisky Soda Report 17 Aug 2007 17:33

Hi Reg I am not thinking emily was his offspring, but susannahs from her previous marriage

Whisky Soda

Whisky Soda Report 17 Aug 2007 18:06

Has anyone fouund Hectors birth, I am thinking he is Susannah and Edwards son and wuld like to confirm it

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Aug 2007 18:08

I think you can be sure that if anyone finds the birth, you'll know about it!! LOL!! If you buy his marriage cert, it should tell you his father's name and occ. As already pointed out, there is nothing on 1901 to say that he is Edward's son...........although it does seem the most likely scenario. Reg

Ajwyorks

Ajwyorks Report 17 Aug 2007 18:15

1891 - no Hector Edward Willmore Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Padbury, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Cartworth Ecclesiastical parish: Holmfirth Holy Trinity Town: Cartworth County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Huddersfield Sub-registration district: Holmfirth ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Rebecca Johnson 6/12 William Johnson 27 son-in-law Edward Willmore 47 Head Kate Willmore 20 (Kate Johnson) Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3558; Folio 7; Page 8; GSU roll: 6098668.

Whisky Soda

Whisky Soda Report 17 Aug 2007 20:48

I think I will get the marriage cert, and see what that shows, but would still like to find his birth