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Estelle

Estelle Report 11 Jun 2003 19:32

Success!!!! Thank you all so much for your help. I had a look at the ellisisland.org site and found him straightaway. Jude - it was the one you mentioned. He went to NY to stay with his brother-in-law who had been a witness at his wedding. I have found no trace of his wife yet, but will keep looking. This has already answered some questions for me. I have been looking for info about him for about 6 years so thank you again!

Unknown

Unknown Report 11 Jun 2003 18:18

Hi Estelle Have you looked on www.ellisisland.org yet, l have just had a quick look and found:Mark Goldstein left Liverpool 1911 aged 40 and Ethel Goldstein left from London 1922 aged 40yrs, l know they don't match,but their were others on their and you get different spellings of surnames and Markus etc.Just thought l'd tell you. Cheers Jude(S.Wales)

Unknown

Unknown Report 11 Jun 2003 17:23

Hi, when you get the time, have a browse back through the earlier tips on this board and you will see how common this idea is that names are somehow carved in Granite. When we get further back most of our ancestors were illiterate. When they arranged a christening or a burial the minister had to write down the name as he heard it. Consequently I have over 9 different spellings of my Surname in 12 Generations! As to Forenames, sometimes people were known by a nickname, or they didn't like the name their parents gave them. Yours seems an obvious case of Anglicising a Jewish Forename? It was all perfectly legal. Good luck with your research, Jim, Gosport.

Vera

Vera Report 11 Jun 2003 17:15

Estelle On the 1881 census there are only 4 Mark Goldsteins, all born in the London area. The references are: Mark age 9 - son of Abraham RG11 0447 42 6. Mark age 11 - son of Solomon RG11 0437 86 5 (the one you know about) Mark age 12 - son of Harris RG11 0440 5 3. Mark age 13 - son of Aaron RG11 0473 48 28. I suggest you print them out and have a good look at the families. It was often the case that immigrants sometimes changed their names to make then sound more English. There is a Marcus on the census, too, which could have been changed to Mark later. Take a side step and look for a brother of sister of Mark and trace their parentage. Who else is mentioned as witnesses on the marriage certificate - could they be family members? Have you tried the Ellis Island site (http://www.ellisisland.org)in case they went to America, not Canada? That should give you food doe thought, have fun. Vera, Manchester

Estelle

Estelle Report 11 Jun 2003 15:48

I am looking for any info regarding my great grandfather - Mark Goldstein, born c.1869. I have a copy of his marriage certificate and his father was called Simon Goldstein. I do not know where he was born. I have found a possible match on the census but the father is named as Solomon. Do you think it could be the same but with the name spelt wrong? Mark and his wife Ethel Eliza Blyth left the UK around 1910 leaving their children with a guardian. We do not know where they went, although my Grandad thinks it may have been Canada. I would love to find out more about Mark and also where they went but have hit a brick wall. Any suggestions gratefully received. Thank you!