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Dorothy

Dorothy Report 30 Jul 2003 21:41

Can anyone come up with an idea how to find people who seem to have died but with no record? Where a census (1881) tells that the grandparents are now in charge of grandchildren in a close knit community like the Forest of Dean, Glos then the parents a brother and sister, have died within a few years of each other, also the husband of the sister and the wife of the brother. I have found the marriage of sister, death of her husband, but no trace of the brother without trawling through 1837 for 10 years, not even his name. The grandchildren living with the grandparents are his children, no evidence of his wife. 1870 census no help. 1901 census reveals two more grandchildren (sister's children) now living with gran (one not born until 1889! Ain't it complicated? I feel I'm missing something obvious, especially as I now find that sister's husbands brother was also a widower by 1882. Any lateral thought available?

Maxine

Maxine Report 30 Jul 2003 21:55

Hi Dorothy Another possible thought is that a surviving relative had travelled away for work. I am pretty sure that is what happened with my great great grandparents. I assumed he was dead as he was missing from 1881 census, and thought that she wasn't listed as a widow due to error. However when I got their daughters marriage certificate (several years on)he had signed it! Not as dead as I had originally thought. The family was from Shrewsbury, and the marriage was in South Wales, I have therefore assumed that he left the family to work in the pits and sent money home. (It would also explain how my great grandparents met in the first place!) Regards Maxine

Dorothy

Dorothy Report 30 Jul 2003 22:50

Hi Maxine: I had that thought about going away to the other coalfields so tried Wales. No luck. I am beginning to suspect the 1837online entry for the sister's marriage has her marrying the wrong man, as he died within three months of the marriage and that she did in fact marry the older brother, listed as widower in the 1881C. Perhaps her brother emigrated?

June

June Report 30 Jul 2003 23:12

Hi Dorothy, History is definitely not a strong point with me! The Boer war was 1899 - 1902, and I cant for the life of me think of the war before this, but sometimes these are the results of children being left with Grandparents. This was the answer to one of my queries, just a thought????? June,Nr.Preston Lan.