Genealogy Chat

Hi folks, Some of you were kind enough to contribute to my thread on whether Marianne and Mary Ann were interchangeable or not and I promised an update when I got the marriage certificate. The question was, could Alfred and Marianne Pike on the 1851 census be the Alfred Pike and Mary Ann Turner who married in 1840 in Clerkenwell. Well, the answer was no. The Alfred on the cert was a bookkeeper, while my ancestor was an "artiste in hair" (aka a wig maker !!!). Someone I've been in contact with through GC has claimed the other couple as his own, so I'm now stumped. The problem is that Alfred was born 1816 and Marianne 1819 and they had their first child in 1841, so I make the likely marriage dates 1837 to 1842 and there's only one Alfred Pike on 1837online marrying between those years and that's the bookkeeper. Any suggestions on where to go next ? Rick.

Rick How about a home for the genealogically bewildered? lol Jeanette

Oh thanks Jeanette.... Put the kettle on for when I arrive ! Rick ;-)

Hi Rick & Jeanette Have you got any biscuites for when I arrive? chocolate would be nice! Rick, Why have you got so many interesting people in your tree? Hair Artistes, Spanish Women, the most interesting I've got is a marine store dealer, and thats only interesting because I'm not 100% sure what it is, and he is the only one of my GG Grandparents I can't find. Lynda

Kettles on, chokky digestives on a plate. Hubby's threatening to leave home at the thought of a load of 'sad cemetery searchers' getting together! If only I'd known it was gonna be that easy to get rid of him. lol Jeanette

Karen, just don't go there! He still hasn't finished this one that he started 2 years ago. While you're on, you're not descended from any Bradys from Hull are you? A long shot I know, but worth a try. Jeanette

Karen, Oi ! Stop hijacking my thread with your construction projects ! I'm sure he'll get around to it when the footie season is over. I've got a good prospect for Alfred on the IGI - b.23 Jun 1816 and a large number of siblings/parents/grandparents to go with it. I'd really love to get the marriage cert just to prove that the parents are his & therefore so are the other lot. How does someone not get on the civil register ? Rick.

Rick Sorry mate, got a bit carried away in your absence. I think it was quite easy as although it was allegedly compulsary, it wasn't enforced. I think it was about 1875 when they introduced a fine if you didn't register BMD's. Jeanette

Hi Lynda, We're an unusual bunch I must admit. Besides the Spanish Woman & the wig maker, I can do you a moderately successful landscape artist who exhibited with the RA, someone who had 2 singles in the indie charts in the late 70s, a multi-millionaire recent OBE and a circus bareback rider. Did your cousin(?) play in the women's FA CUP match last weekend against Bristol Rovers ? I must admit I don't know what the score was or who went through. Considered going for a short while, but then it rained ! Rick.

Jeanette, That's the trouble, as soon as the weather starts getting better you just have to want something built ! Alfred's the first one I haven't found on 1837online. I also can't find any of his 8 children there either. The IGI entries suggest they belong to some non-conformist branch of the church but I don't see why that should matter on the civil registers. Rick.

Hiya Rick Us girly's have hijacked this site as we have so many interesting things to say! I want your circus bareback rider, and your millionaire, swap you for a printer and a pavior....deal! Yes she did play have a look at this site give your eyes a treat!! Did you know her name is is Ellen Maggs? There are photos on the site of her. http://www.arsenal(.)com/sportsappcontroller(.)jsp?command=forwardOnly&nextPage=/ladies/gm22_bristolrovers14032004(.)jsp Off to Scotland friday for a girly weekend can't wait. Lynda

Thanks Karen, I'm working from home tomorrow so I can get up a bit later. Suppose I should really go to bed now though. Night, Rick. x

Lynda, That's a first for me - don't frequent the oppo sites too much ! I've got a paviour too, so no swaps there ! When I run out of other ideas, I'm going back to the bareback rider line, but I'm not sure of any of her history - mostly made up I think. Where are you going in Scotland ? This is normally a good time to go weather-wise according to my Scottish mate. I can recommend a fab Chinese in Edinburgh if you're those parts. Rick.

Karen, I like it (footie, not lager that is). Rick.

Rick Going to Loch Awe Argyll, it's magical there. Try to got to Scotland once a year, one of the best places in the world I have been. Will try tp get to Iona this time. Going on a coach trip. Have a look at some photos. http://www(.)lochsandglens(.)com/ I sound like the Scottish tourist board. I am off to nod land now. Have a good weekend. Lynda

Lynda, That looks wonderful. Hope the weather keeps fine for you. Hope you have a great time, Rick.

rick by the way ,,,another name for a wig maker is ...wait for it....a nob thatcher!!!! lol karen and jeannette talking of diy my hubby is a chippy and i have also got a lot of unfinished projects ,including a conservatory !!!! have you room for one more lol susie

Susie, Nob thatcher !!!! LOL Rick.

thought you'd like that lol a friend on gc has got a book of old trades and she told me quite a few susie

Susie Nob thatcher!!! roflmao My hubbies speciality is conservatories - but only when he's getting paid to do them! Rick Can you get to view the parish registers for Alf? Jeanette