Genealogy Chat

there are 26 pages of images relating to this instution. You might be better trying google. might also try www*hiddenlives*org*uk. see if kirkdale gets a mention jess note replace * with .

I certainly will Janice! She proved rather difficult to find but with everyones help on here I knew something would turn up. Everyone is so friendly and willing to help, I really do appreciate it ... I think it is a great little site. Al the best Sue

Hi Sue, Got this woman in my brain now LOL! When you get the cert please post the info! Good luck, Janice

Janice you are a little gem!! This will help me no end as I can now order their marriage certificate and get back a generation. I'm sorry I don't know when Robert died but Im gonna have a look now on FreeBMD to see if I can find Pryna's death. Hugs all round Sue

Sue, Do you know when Robert Jones died? Was he alive for the 1901? Janice

Maybe she didn't like Pryna and went with the Jane LOL. Sounds like her family were very Welsh though so I'm surprised she got the Jane rather than its Welsh equivalent, Sian. Janice

So with a welsh accent could well be down as Hannah - the more i try and say it with a welsh accent the more faces i am apparently pulling!! Jess

Jess, I know!!!!!!!!!! Can't get a Pryna on ANY census! Grew up in Wales so I'm trying to go with pronunciation rather than spelling. Pryna rhymes with runner if that gives anybody any ideas. Janice

Well done Janice. still doesn't show on 1901 census.. Jess

June 1896 Cardiff Marriage of Pryna Jane Jones to Robert Jones Cardiff 11a 424 (found on FreeBMD) Janice

YIKES is that the time!!! I must leave the site now, supposed to be meeting someone at 8pm and not had tea or got ready yet. Thanks everyone! Byeeeeeeeeee Sue

No worries Lyla .... all these dates get me muddled too! Sue

Jess Thanks for the latest info! Some bits and pieces in that I did not know about ..... very interesting. 'Pauper inmate' What does this mean exactly? Was she in the children's home at this time in her life? I know my Nan never talked about her early childhood but I was aware that she did have to go into a children's home and lost contact with her only sister for a while. Sue

Thanks Jess for my grandmother's details. I do have a birth certificate for her but it is not a full one and so does not have her mother's details recorded on it. I will just have to take the plunge and order her full birth certificate. Sue

PROB WON'T HELP MUCH sorry caps lock snuck on Name: Maud Jones Age in 1901: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1897 Relation: Pauper Inmate Household: View other family members Gender: Female Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Kirkdale Ecclesiatical parish: St Mary County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: View Image Condition as to marriage: View Image Education: View Image Employment status: View Image Occupation: View Image Source information: RG13/3472 Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: Kirkdale ED, institution, or vessel: Kirkdale Industrials School Folio: 259 Page: 20 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 1

mauds birth ref Name: Jones, Maud Harriet H Record Type: Births Quarter: June Year: 1896 District: Cardiff (1837-1974) County: Glamorgan Monmouthshire Volume: 11a Page: 388 you could send for her birth cert, should say mothers maiden name jess

Tryphena is a pretty name and there's a Tryphena who is related to the author Thomas Hardy, which is how I heard of it. It's Latin and means dainty, so no Welsh connection at all. Do let us know if you find out, I am quite curious. I think there must be some error or she would have shown up on a census or on Freebmd. nell

Thanks for idea about getting a marriage certificate but unfortunately I don't know when they married so will have to start with a birth certificate for my grandmother. She was born in May 1895 and being the first born I'm assuming they would have married around 1893-94. Sue

Thanks Chris really appreciate it. Sue

Thanks Jess for the idea that is might be a derivation of Tryphena. I did a Google search for the name but it did not come up with anything. I think I will have to order my grandmother's birth certificate to find out for sure. Thanks for your help everyone. Sue