Genealogy Chat

Alter Can you give me the site address, I will have a look. Carole

The battalion that i found for george william hatcliffe is based in yorkshire !! :-((

Alter It's complicated! George had an older brother called William born in 1860. If you find them in 71 (under Hatcliff) they are with their father William and step-mother Mary. I think the George that June found in 81 is a relation of my George (yet to work that one out!) as I found him in 71 but it says he was born in Legbourne not Waltham. Carole

Couldnt understand him having a younger brother called William-I would have thought he would have been called that being the first born-if not then i think his middle name must have been william.

Yes, that is his marriage. He didn't have anymore children after 1895 so I suppose he could have been in either war. Just wish I could find him in 81 to confirm which one. Carole

Their marriage.................. George ATCLIFFE marries Elizabeth sands December 1887 Boston 7a 786 (cert)

Alter No I can find no birth record for him. Just to complicate matters our branch of the family went by the name of Atcliffe, but it seems some of his siblings used Hatcliffe(various spellings) and some even swopped from census to census! I have Georges marriage cert and he is Atcliffe a labourer and his father is William Atcliffe. In 71 census they are Hatcliff. On Georges daughters marriage cert in 1917 he is George Atcliffe a soldier, it doesnt say deceased but he died in 1906 after the effects of being gassed in the war. Carole

Carole . been doing some checking have you got a birth refernce for this chap reason =no-one listed as george hatcliffe/atcliffe or variations of in the years 1860-1864 for births in lincolnshire.

Alter You are a star!! How did you find that? Now I'm confused as if he was in the 2nd Boer War he should be in 81 census somewhere! I've found him in 1901 at home with his family ( under Ateliffe) Carole

Hows this ...........the only Hatcliffe listed.......... GEORGE WILLIAM HATCLIFFE (fathers name for middle name ?) 27415 Trooper 104th Company /4th Battalion Imperial yeomanry.(second boer war) UPDATE: possible red herring -there were 2 george william hatcliffes born of the right age for this war, which were 1880 and 1877.

I doubt if its the servant-the age is way out-also if he was a soldier he most probably went straight in -he would have been 18ish in 1880- the first boer war is most likely.

Alter Yes you have the right family. George married in 1887 and had 4 children in quick succession from 1889 to 1895, so he definately wasn't away during that period! Carole

I'm sure it finished 30 March 1881. He might've still been away though. Kath - mine are probably there in 1901, but I can't find any trace of them anywhere lol

Thanks everyone for your help. June, that could be him working as a servant but place of birth is wrong - nothing new I know!! Tracy, if 1st Boer War was 1880 he could have been away fighting. Carole xx

Thanks Tracy - was never sure about the first one. My grandad was in the second one, which is why I couldn't find him on the 1901 census. He was in South Africa. Kath. x

Is the family the one with William as a head and younger brother called william?

The first Boar War was 1880-1881.

You could try googling for Boer War sites and also check out NA at Kew.

The only George Hatfield I can find on Ancestry, born Bolingbroke, was born c. 1877/8 and is a three year old living with grandparents on the 1881 census. Kath. x

boer War =1899-1902(2nd one in south africa) Zulu war ended 1879- might still have been abroad,or injured,convalescing.