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just a quickie-maiden names declared for marriage?

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The Ego

The Ego Report 21 Oct 2005 22:26

Evening all-just need something clarifying-if a woman marries for the second time ,is her original maiden name declared or previous married name? when having kids in second marriage-were talking the 1960's and 1970's.This person had both maiden name and past married name listed under the same reference when getting married for the second time.

Dawnieher3headaches

Dawnieher3headaches Report 21 Oct 2005 22:33

On the ones I have she had her first married named and in condition it had Widow but her father had her maiden name. One her childrens birth cert it had her married name then firstmarried name then maiden name. make sense!!!! thought not

The Ego

The Ego Report 21 Oct 2005 22:36

Im referring to the column on the 1837 site,is this always the original maiden name despite having a previous married name?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Oct 2005 22:38

Yes !! my grt gran was married 3 times!!. on her second marriage it states her previous name(the first marriage) & her maiden name. HOWEVER when she remarried the 3rd time it only stated her former married name, no mention of the first married name or her maiden name. Shirley

The Ego

The Ego Report 21 Oct 2005 22:44

So on 1837.......... If a lady called vera smith marries a john fields and later marries a david harrison,will the child from the harrison marriage (2nd one) be declared as... Harrison childs name Smith.......or Harrison childs name Fields.

The Bag

The Bag Report 21 Oct 2005 22:47

My second marriage cert says for instance... Jesicca Brown Formerly Grey Nee Green

The Ego

The Ego Report 21 Oct 2005 22:51

sorry people but none of this has answered the question re the 1837 site with regards the sheet info. not on about the certs the site-original maiden name or previous married surname for the new child??

The Bag

The Bag Report 21 Oct 2005 23:05

dont know chap, you are the expert on that site!

The Ego

The Ego Report 21 Oct 2005 23:07

oh poo- trying to think of a family member who i could look up just to test it and check.....

BrianW

BrianW Report 21 Oct 2005 23:08

My great grandmother married twice and used her maiden name both times (however, until I prove otherwise the second time MAY have been bigamously).

Pippa

Pippa Report 21 Oct 2005 23:08

On my birth ref my mum is listed correctly with her maiden name as Smith. If that helps? Pippa

The Ego

The Ego Report 21 Oct 2005 23:10

were you born during her second marriage pippa?

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 21 Oct 2005 23:10

Not quite sure what you are asking. Do you mean you are looking for the birth reference for a child from the second marriage? I think it will still give the woman's maiden name in the maiden name column. Kath. x

Merry

Merry Report 21 Oct 2005 23:11

I have several second marriages (widows and divorcees) on my tree and all indexing is under the last known surname. (19th and 20thC) My own second marriage cert has no mention of my maiden name except for dad being on it. I am indexed under my first married name. Some people might marry for a second time using their maiden name, but I'm sure it's not the norm, even today. You lost me on the kids bit! Merry

Pippa

Pippa Report 21 Oct 2005 23:15

well....... technically I was born during her first to hubby number one but hubby number two was my Dad. It's not as bad as it sounds they were separated but couldn't afford the divorce. My parents were married 2 days before my sixteenth birthday and I was re-registered and both GRO entries state my mother's maiden name as Smith - which is correct. Pippa

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 21 Oct 2005 23:16

I think Alter is looking for a birth reference in more recent times when mother's maiden name is in the indexes. If the mother has been married twice Alter wants to know whether the maiden name will be given in the index or the first married name. Think that's right anyway. I have a relative who is in the same situation as Pippa, and mother's correct maiden name is given on first registration under the first husband's surname, and again when re-registered under second husband's name Kath. x

The Ego

The Ego Report 21 Oct 2005 23:21

My head hurts..........thought this would be simple. I'll try another way of asking..........in the 1837 site,when looking for a birth in say the 1960's or 1970's when it has the maiden name for the mother of said child,is it always her original maiden name before a first marriage or has it been known that the first married surname is used instead (in the event of said child being born during her second marriage) just as kath said !!!........

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 21 Oct 2005 23:23

I think you should always get the original maiden name. After all the column is called 'mother's maiden name' and not 'previous name'. Kath. x

Pippa

Pippa Report 21 Oct 2005 23:25

Maiden name! GRO index shows SMITH as maiden name. It is the one she was born with! Pippa PS If you are that desperate you can always look up my birth!

Merry

Merry Report 21 Oct 2005 23:27

Ah!! I have been married twice. Children from second marriage are recorded with the maiden surname of the mother (me!). That's all.....No mention of my other married name. Merry