Genealogy Chat

Sometimes people come back to old posts (i.e. through google etc) rather than get a message through their email so it may not be wasted Kevin :)

Hmmm. I was feeling quite pleased with myself for 5 minutes there !!

Oh well....it was nice to see Kevin helping!
;-) ;-)

Maureen

big gypsy family here in angelsey by the name of LEE. well known gypsy family.dont know if they are romany or irish.x :-D

PMed Jonathan to see if he is still a member:

Marriages Mar 1909
LEE Richard Ac_ille P W. Derby 8b 496
OAG Margaret Bremner W.Derby 8b 496

Rose

:-(

Why would someone resurrect a thread that old.

I know I do not go back beyond a couple of days.......

You people are responding to a 7 year old thread.

From 1911 census

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
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OAG, William Head Married M 32 1879 Blacksmith Lancs Liverpool VIEW
OAG, Catherine Wife Married
10 years F 38 1873 Lanc Liverpool VIEW
OAG, Jessie Daughter F 9 1902 Lancs Liverpool VIEW
OAG, Margaret Daughter F 7 1904 Lanc Liverpool VIEW
OAG, Christina Daughter F 5 1906 Lanc Liverpool VIEW
OAG, Mary Daughter F 3 1908 Lanc Liverpool VIEW
OAG, William Son M 0 (11 MONTHS) 1911 Lanc Liverpool VIEW
LYNCH, Catherine Stepdaughter F 13 1898 School Lanc Liverpool VIEW

Name: LEE, Marjorie B
Registration district: [?] West Derby
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1921
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's maiden name: Oag
Volume no:[?] 8B
Page no:[?]1234

West Derby is pretty much in Liverpool.

Oag isn't exactly common but I can't find a marriage for Lee- Oag

MarriageFinder™: Marjorie B Lee married Leslie N Boughton [?]
Name: LEE, Marjorie B
Registration district: [?] Wallasey
County: Cheshire
Year of registration: 1945
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name Boughton
Volume no: [?] 8A
Page no: [?] 1963

Looking at the above Information regarding Smith and Lee i no for a fact that that in 1914 thees familys where setup in Pigue Lane Liverpool that was just down the road from the Ferry Boats, as that where my mother was born, she was one of the Smiths. Pigue is now a main Road. Hope this has helped you ?.
Good Luck
Joe

My great uncle married a women named Gypsi Isabella Lee in South Africa. Does that mean her name is redundant? Rose

Lee is a very very common surname. I know because I have a few in my tree and keep getting messages from completely unconnected people asking about them. Yes, some Lees are / were gypsies, but that doesn't mean they all were. Your grandmother won't appear on any of the censuses that are available because they only go up to 1901 at the moment (hundred-year rule). I haven't read all the replies properly yet, but what you need is her marriage certificate to get her father's name, and her birth certificate, checking that the father's name (and occupation) match what is on the marriage certificate. Having read the above messages now - I would say the first thing to do is to get her marriage certificate, as the reference numbers for that should be relatively easy to find, perhaps on 1837 online? Kate.

Dear Jonathan, Try Googling Romany Heritage, there a couple of area sites on there and possibly links.to contacts I know there is much more information now than ten years ago Moore is another Romany name ( possibly Anglicised) certainly very old. Good luck Jay

doesn't look like it's going to be easy - but thanks for all your comments!

ukbmd.org.uk has links to local RO sites such as Cheshire and Lancs. Couldn't find anything easily on Lancs, but these three cropped up on Cheshire Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1921 to 1923 LEE Marjorie Prestbury Cheshire East PRE/25/45 Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1924 to 1926 LEE Marjorie Bredbury Stockport BRE/8/8 LEE Marjorie Stockport First Stockport ST1/46/10 Two problems with them all: no mention of second names (and they are usually mentioned with an initial at least) and Prestbury (nr Macclesfield) and Bredbury/Stockport aren't exactly Merseyside! Christine

Of course a lot of Lees were from Ireland and didnt you mention Liverpool?

Jonathan Genuki has a list of registration districts, arranged by county: www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/REG/index.htm Wirral is in Cheshire, there are several Liverpool & surrounding area districts under Lancs. The page I gave about will tell you which years and volume numbers apply to which districts. nell

Thanks for all that help, at least I have confirmed that it could be quite difficult to trace her line. I will try to find her birth certificate! I am pretty sure she was born in Wallasey as that's what my aunt told me - but if she was a traveller then who could tell? Can anyone help clarify where Liverpool and The Wirral were classified under (Lancs or Cheshire?) before the 1970s counties change and hoe does this affect genealogy?