Genealogy Chat

just a moment while I type it in Margaret

In the 1901 census I have this family living in Sunninghill Berkshire Frederick Dollery head Mary Ann Dollery wife and this is the puzzle William Dollery son age 14, now I do know Frederick and May Ann did not marry until 1892 so how can the 14 year old William be theirs I also can't find him in the 1891 census or his birth. Anyone any ideas Margaret

it may be possible that the parents were not married when he was born.

has Frederick been married before? Jeanette

Have you got Mary Ann in the 1891 census? William may be her son and registeresd in her maiden name. Jacqui

Have you checked the actual image? I have found a few transcribed (for instance) age 14 when the image says age 4? Suzanne

Hi Yes I have seen the image it says 14, also I have found Mary Ann in the 1891 census not with Frederick perhaps he had been married before but I can't see the birth for William either.thanks Margaret

I think Mary Ann is the dau of Charles and Ann Goodchild....though I had to go back to 1871 to find her at home! LOL In 1891 they have a ''son'' living with them called William Goodchild. He could be theirs as mum is only mid 40's, but just wondered if he is Mary Ann's? Then when she marries Frederick the child takes his name.......... NOPE - FORGET THAT IDEA.......William Goodchild is still with parents in 1901.........must have left a searchbox filled last time I checked for him......!! LOL Sorry! Merry

perhaps he is a step son looked on index found 1 william born Chelsea but found him on 1891and 1901 Willie Dollery St Saviour 1d 116 july 1/4 1887 haven't looked on census yet Jeanette

Not sure it helps much but William is not with Frederick in 1891 either......... Name: Sollary, Frederick C Age: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1867 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where Born: Winkfield, Berkshire Birth Country: England Civil parish: Sunninghill Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Town: Ascot County/Island: Berkshire

can't see that one on census St Saviour is in Devon Jeanette

Oh no it isn't!! Merry

that what it says on http://www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/places/ St. Saviour DEV Totnes Jeanette oh ok Devonshire

I thought there was a St Saviour in Surrey - Southwark I think !

oh found this 1891 Dollery, Willie Age: 3 Estimated birth year: abt 1888 Relation: Son Gender: Male Where Born: Walworth, London Birth Country: England Civil parish: Camberwell Ecclesiastical parish: St Marks Town: Peckham County/Island: London Street address: View Image Condition as to marriage: View Image Education: View Image Employment status: View Image Occupation: View Image Source information: RG12/486 Registration district: Camberwell Sub registration district: St George ED, institution, or vessel: 4b Folio: 74 Page: 62 (click to see others I thought St Saviour would have been London too!! so perhaps it must be this one then cant see him on the 1901 except with Frederick perhaps parents died and they took him in? Dollery, Dick abt 1865 Winchester, Hampshire, England Head Camberwell London View Record Dollery, Lizzie abt 1862 Andover, Hampshire, England Wife Camberwell London View Record Dollery, Willie abt 1888 Walworth, London, England Son Camberwell London

Yes, but the registration district is in London/Surrey!! A clue is that the volume ref begins with 1 (1d, isn't it?) - all the London one's are 1 These are the parishes it covers. Newington St. Mary (1870-1901), Southwark Christ Church, Southwark St. George (1870-1901), Southwark St. Saviour Merry

Dollery, Dick Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 37 Quarter: September Year: 1902 District: Winchester County: Hampshire Volume: 2c Page: 72 (click to see others on page can't find wifes death

Thank you for all the replies Esta it looks as though you found him as Sollary in the 1891 census. Yes Mary Ann Dollery maiden name was Goodchild and William was her brother as you see by the 1891 and 1901 census. Still confused whom William Dollery was wonder if Frederick parents died and he was a brother. will keep looking thank you Margaret

Just a general point - any 'son' or 'daughter' on a census is only listed as the son or daughter of the head of household, so you cannot assume that the head's wife is the mother of the child. But also, you will often find a step-son or step-daughter listed as son or daughter. So this boy could be the son of either the head or his wife by a previous relationship. Kate.

Kate, Good point - I've been caught out and wasted lots of head scratches on just this very 'technicality'!! Jane