Genealogy Chat

Hi Jess, Just been on acestry try just that.... as you say looks like a long job, thanks for your help. Sue Def Callear, but looks like lots of different spelling if I get any further back.

susan , think what you are going to have to do is hunt for the marriage, working back from 1919- it will be time consuming, but not difficult. will have a go for you tommorow if i am at a loose end is it deffo CalleaR Not CalleaN? jess x

Sorry jess, Brain isn't working today. Mortimer callear his wife is Elizabeth, gave birth to norman callear 1919, we think Elizabeth's maiden name was burrows. Thanks Sue

enough for tonight - no more, let me look at what i have

Jess, before I forget, we were discussing Burial Deeds last week ? If you google Burial Laws , there are some great sites on the Burial Charter and how long you hold the deeds and your right to transfer them. Anyway, if you are bored, can you take a peek at this poser. Her goes. In Jan1851 John Webb widower married Jane Reeks, single woman. In the 1851 census,they live in Gt. Munden, Herts. There are two children Martin Webb b. 1846 and Cathrine Webb b. 1848. I assume these two are from John's first wife. Nearby, live Jane's parents. they live at Rough Grounds which is the address on Jane's marriage certificate.Living with them is their grandson, Martin Reeksb. 1847. The IGI records identify Jane as hismother. Now, I can find no birth record for either Martin or Cathrine Webb. They disappear from the other census' so I assumed they died young. I can find Martin Reeks born Sep. 1847 in the bmds. What reason woould there be for Cathrine and Martin not being found in the birth records. They are recorded as being born in Standon and I have also checked the surroundig areas. The biggie is, Are Martin Webb and Martin Reeks the same boy? I am so confused!

Thanks Jess. I will chase up both of those births. I appreciate your time and help. Sophie

sue, what is the mothers name on the birth cert ? born to Mortimer and who? just hanging onto this for a mo View Record CALLEAN, Mortimer 1881 December Births Wolverhampton Shropshire Staffordshire West Midlands

Hi Jess Son George was born 15/8/1888. The 1881 census shows Abraham as son with parents but he is with wife Elizabeth on 1891 census. Do you think they just didn't get married and Elizabeth simply took his name? Or wasn't that done in those days?? Thanks Sophie

Hi Jess, New to this my self only about 2 months into my tree, but my son in law has just got some info on his family, and I don't know where to start him off. The Info he has is his grandads birthcirtificate. Norman Callear born 1919 Frankfield Rd New Moston Manxhester District of prestwich. His father is Mortimer Callear. Have searched 1901 census can't find anyone, but on 1891 census, only one record comes up Mortimer Callear 1882 Willenhall West midlands, even when I look at different spellings can't seems to find anything. Can you please steer me in the right direction for him Thanks Sue

Thanks for looking Jess :-)

sophie, when was the George born please which census first finds them married? got them in 1891 Abraham Webb abt 1861 West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England Head Harborne Staffordshire Alexander Webb abt 1886 Smethwick, Staffordshire, England Son Harborne Staffordshire Amy Webb abt 1884 Smethwick, Staffordshire, England Daughter Harborne Staffordshire Elizabeth Webb abt 1865 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Wife Harborne Staffordshire ------------------------------------------------- could Amy be born pre nuptuals?? Name: Simmonds, Amy Record Type: Births Quarter: March Year: 1883 District: West Bromwich County: Shropshire Staffordshire Worcestershire Volume: 6b Page: 872 or Name: Simmonds, Amy Record Type: Births Quarter: September Year: 1883 District: Kings Norton County: Staffordshire Warwickshire Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page: 461

beggared if i can either sammy!

Jess. Thomas H Lucas is the Head Harriett 1851 wife (sorry not Harry) the rest are the children. I can see the messages building up, so don't worry about it. At least I know that it isn't me not being able to find them. Off to bed now as I start at 5am. Thanks for looking Jan

Jess, if you are still bored and looking for something to do, I am looking for a marriage for one of my rellies and it has escaped me for months. Bet you could find it!! It is only the marriage details that I am looking for, I have birth/death certs. His name is Abraham Webb, born 7/3/1861 in Greets Green West Bromwich. His father was Titus John Webb and his mother was Mary Bushell, both born 1823. Abraham married Elizabeth Simmonds b1864 in Birmingham. They had 7 children (Amy, Alexander, George,Robert, Ada, Annie & Frances). Alexander is my great grandfather. I cannot find any birth details for the 2 eldest children Amy & Alexander, but have traced the birth certificate for George, which shows the parents and confirms Elizabeth's maiden name. Abraham was a boatman, a puddler and an iron worker. I know he died in 1933 and have traced his death certificate. Despite asking Sandwell & Birmingham registry offices to do searches, they cannot trace the marriage. I have looked on Ancestry and 1837online without success. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Sophie

Jan, not obvious, or even 'likelies' at the moment. Who is who??

Your mission tonight... should you choose to accept Finding this family in 1891 1901 Thomas J Crocker abt 1854 Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales Head Swansea Glamorgan Caroline Crocker abt 1855 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Wife Swansea Glamorgan Selina Crocker abt 1888 Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Swansea Glamorgan 1881 Caroline Crocker abt 1856 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Wife Swansea John Crocker abt 1853 Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales Head Swansea Mary A. Crocker abt 1875 Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Swansea Susan Crocker abt 1877 Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Swansea Thomas Crocker abt 1880 Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales Swansea Head was Thomas John Crocker, known by Thomas or John. I've got Mary Ann (my great grandmother) in 1891, with Caroline Perry, her aunt. I'm buggered if I can find John, Caroline & Selina though!

Jess. They are all born Portsea Jan

Jan. any birth places or are they all Portsea?

Well Jess and Jane if you're that bored I'll nudge my thread from earlier (called 'could anyone help me please...) and you can have fun finding out any more of that! here it comes... Abi

Esta, tried the door? mine are usually inthe pocket of a coat i havent worn for weeks...except i put it on to put the bin out last night