Genealogy Chat

Back searching again and think the best course of action to take is to try and find the birth date of one of Henry's children Henry Junior born 1874c Birmingham and Emma born 1868c Birmingham - wish me luck on this one as I'm sure I'll need it.

No cetainly not Emma probert - she did infact marry a Henry Fellows but she isn't mine, have tried that one and she is on someone elses tree on here and we have tried to match up but it didn't work out as he stayed with Emma Probert and mine ended up with Emma Hall after 1881. Thanks for trying Etsa

Had another look the name is Emila and she looks like the daugther of the one age 36, Henry is down as unmarried, This could now be proving that the Henry with the twin Wallace is not the one I'm after as mine should have Emma the daughter with him and a wife or be living in sin so to speak. Will have to leave it tonight and come back tomorrow about 8 Thanks to all, be back tomorrow Joanne

This is a REALLY BIG long shot...........and now I might be clutching at straws....... assuming that daughter Emma was named after her mother ( as son henry was named after father ).......... Emma was born 1868......Birmingham.. Well there is this marriage for 1869...Birmingham. Henry Fellowes 1869 Apr-May-Jun Birmingham (1837-1924) Warwickshire George Hand 1869 Apr-May-Jun Birmingham (1837-1924) Warwickshire Emma Probert 1869 Apr-May-Jun Birmingham (1837-1924) Warwickshire Eliza Sutton 1869 Apr-May-Jun Birmingham (1837-1924) Might be worth considering.

Look again. The householder is too old to have a 2 year old daughter so whose is the daughter? The info. for each person is a bit mixed up. Have you tried searching for a birth for Emma? There are a couple in 1867/1868 on freebmd born in Dudley (which covers Sedgley & Tipton) - you could order a certificate with Henry Fellows as father as a reference check. That might help! Ditto for Henry b. 1874 - there are a couple of possibles either side 1872 & 1875 in Dudley/Wolverhampton.

Could be him as the age is right and the occupation of Tin plate worker is right ( he is the same all the way through his life and he brought all his family up like that to stay in the same job ) but and it's a big BUT, it isn't his daughter Emma with him it is the householders daughter so still have the issue of his daughter and his mysterious wife

Oh god!! going to look right now!! could this be him and his daughter??

1871 there is a Henry Felows listed as a lodger b. 1847 in Birmingham. if you look at the image above him is possibly Emma or Emily aged 2. Henry's occupation is tin man.

Your'e right I know but how great it would be to find them in 71, I could then put them all together and confim my background on the one side of my family that doesn't want to be found. They could be anywhere in or out of the country - lol and I think that is where they may end up staying!!

.......I agree 1871 would solve this ( I think ) but I can't see Emma or another possible for Henry....... I feel as though you could have the right family in 51 / 61 but feelings are no good unless you can prove them........LOL.........and I'm all out of ideas........

Henry at this point should be with his wife and daughter Emma, but this is where it gets lost until he appears in 1881, he is in the workhouse in Sheffield, Emma and his son born 1874 Henry Junior are living also in Sheffield with Emma Hall who he later has more children with, but she isn't the mother of his first two Emma and Henry. I do think that it is him and he is a twin to Wallace as the Sheffield connetcion is there as Wallace moves to Sheffield and the saem occupation is there. But where is he in 1871, he should be with the mother of Emma and Henry but for love nor money I can't find them even after 8 months and breaking off from the search for a while I still come back to this same blank Joanne

1851/61- Wallace and Henry are twins with parents Elizabeth and JOhn. in 1871 I can account for everyone exept Henry ! Wallace is on the 1871.

Esta No Wallace there in 1871 and the parents are Elizabeth and John to the potential twins as on IGI, the one in 1871 shows Sarah as the mother I think, also where is Emma the daughter of Henry, he would have been 21 years of age in 1871 Or is it me that's missing something?

the only possible I can see for 1971 is the one Bridie found but you said wasn't him.......do mind if I ask how you know it's not him ?

I also can find the family with the twins one of whom 'Henry' may just be my great great grandfather but 1871 is such a problemfor finding Henry, he should have his oldest daughter Emma with him but no luck!! Another co-incidence is twins run in my family! God now I'm clutching at straws!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol lol Joanne

Mmmm.....It's a hard one I found your possible family in 1851 with the twins....and then found same lot in 1861.......but 1871 is causing problems now......

No have already tried to locate Emma in 1871 but again have drawn a blank there also It really is difficult to find any of them prior to 1881 Joanne

Just thinking.........have you found sister Emma in 1871 ( as she was born in 1868 ! )

I did have the right ones in 1881...:)

Possible parents for Henry and Wallace are John and Elizabeth, but can't even think of finding out more about thm as I might be going after the wrong family Would love to find the birth date and send for cert of my great grandfather also called Henry but don't know date of birth only approx year of 1874 all I know about him is he was also born Birmingham/Wolverhampton, in Sheffield in 1881 with his sister Emma whilst Henry the father is in workhouse. He later died in the 1930's