Genealogy Chat

Victoria - I looked at that one, but if you look at the image the surname looks more like Eagles to me. And to confirm it, this looks like Mary Ann's marriage to Mr Houghton: Marriages Sep 1892 Eagles Mary Ann Liverpool 8b 235 Houghton Charles Liverpool 8b 235 Sorry! Richard

This would appear to be Charles Frederick in 1901 Record Charles Engle abt 1882 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Brother Liverpool Lancashire View Record Emily Engle abt 1887 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Sister Liverpool Lancashire View Record A J Houghton abt 1900 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Liverpool Lancashire View Record Clara Houghton abt 1893 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Liverpool Lancashire View Record Isabella Houghton abt 1898 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Liverpool Lancashire View Record Mary Tim Houghton abt 1876 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Head Liverpool Lancashire View Record George Ingham abt 1882 England Visitor Liverpool Lancashire Victoria (in Canberra)

Do you have Charles Frederick's death cert? This looks like the ref for it on the NSW BDM site: Registration Number Last Name Given Name(s) Father's Given Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) District 10179/1925 ENGLE CHARLES F 47 YRS MENTAL HOSPITAL DRUMMOYNE His parents names aren't given, so possibly the informant didn't have that info, but the cert should have his birthplace, if it was known by the informant. Would be worth a try. Richard

hi ...have you tried different spellings of the name incase transcript wrong?

I am knocked over by the generosity and determination of the helpers on the Tips Board and hope in the future I can contribute as well, however I am still in the help required mode. This is what I have: My grandfather Charles Frederick ENGLE, age 27, a stores checker? of 92 Hawthorne Road Bootle (near Liverpool), father Charles Henry Engle, a Cattle Salesman married to my grandmother Gwenllian JONES, age 20, no occupation noted, of No 1 Harbour Road Cardiff, father Benjamin Jones Harbour Master in the Register Office in Cardiff on 4 Oct 1909. On 28 Oct 1915 Gwenllian gave birth to my Father John Frederick ENGLE at Bream Street Coogee in Sydney. On the birth cert Charles Frederick Engle is described as a Cattle Salesman aged 35 years born In Kadina in South Australia. Problem1 Despite searching all the indexes at Society of Australian Geneologists on births in South Australia and enlisting the help of the local history group I can't find any record of his birth in Kadina in South Australia or any where else in Australia for that matter. I also had a look in the UK in case he was telling fibs and found a Charles Frederick Engle born on 22 Jul 1880 at Chiswick in Middlesex to Christey and Elizabeth Engle but this not soundlike his parents So I have come to a full stop on Charles Frederick Engle Problem 2 His father Charles Henry Engle. I just don't seem to be able find a trace of him in Australia or UK . Assuming him to be about 20 to 40 at his sons birth in about 1880 puts his birth about 1840-1860 Any advice would be gratefully received John of Balmain Sydney