Genealogy Chat

Glad to have been of some help, Alter. Anne

Update- I have emailed a group called The Friends of Cannon Hall with details and they have lots of archive material to wade through. It has been suggested by a lady doing the one name study that the nottinghamshire birth reference is another family already accounted for but she is double checking ,and reminded me that people wer not fined till after 1870 for not registering births.

Thanks for that snippet...........:~))

mmmmthat all adds up then........someone views his work at the exhibition then he gets commissions......the sons carved the lectern for the local village church after this,and they also exhibited in paris......makes sense-amazing what a little detail on a census can provide to the picture.

I think that's quite likely. My book about Cawthorne says that the Spencer-Stanhopes of Cannon Hall were the largest employers in the village. Patrons of the arts etc. Thye would probably have been up for some high class carpentry. Anne

The scenario I see is that the child was physically born there,but they went to register her in the home county...?She was termed as a Wood carvers Wife later !!

she may have been-another thought is that the dad was a master carpenter and did furniture for the king.....he also exhibited in the 1851 exhibition in London at this time.....so a busy family and they were top notch wood carvers and carpenters-Ive seen some of their stuff go for £20k at auctions.....so maybe at that time he had work on and commisions and it was easier for the family to lodge there?

Cannon Hall is in Cawthorne. The local 'big house'. Is it possible the mother was a servant there? The Spencer-Stanhope family owned the estate. They were apparently very good landlords and employers and benefactors to the village. Anne

No they were all carpenters local to their village- maybe they were passing through and were being very precise as to where she was born......in one census it says Cannon Hall instead but i think it has been misheard when transferred onto the sheet. what i cant fathom is why they registered some but not all-the poorly daughter my well have been a factor.....she died or maybe was ill when the mother was due to give birth to Annie,maybe she was taken to relatives away from a sick child just in case.

Still don't understand where Cawthorne came in. Some of my rellies were from Cawthorne - hence the interest. Do you think it possible that she was adopted (informally in those days) into the family, maybe from another relative? It seems really strange that they should be in Cawthorne at all - were they miners? Anne

my only problem is that she was recorded as Anne E Tudsbury,then Annie E. Tudsbury,then Annie Helena tudsbury....think she was just a stroppy mare ....

Merry............sorry about that my best mate talks for England........ that must be her,despite her being down as cawthorne in the census......the name has been misspelt and for some reason the search facility on IGI and freebmd doesnt include Tudbury with Tudsbury,but includes more different versions of the name ......... that must be her ....cheers Merry.

still on the phone

sorry -the phone went-bbs

Oh ok,will have a look. The 7a also covers some Leicester and Ashby de La Zouch as well,(on freebmd)pick the name Chambers,vol 7a and a ten year span say 1850-1860 and they all come up,Ashby de la Z,Lincoln,Caistor,Leicester.It's a major pain at times. The tripwire just went off,see you all tomorrow. Glen

Glen .................there is a thread for you to post on, on General, by Ann Warren! Turnip or swede? Merry

I have resuscitated myself (as no one here cares!) ALTER. Who does that birth reg belong to? Answer me!!!!!!! (I shall buy the cert in a minute!!) Glen....Not sure what you mean about 7a and 7b?? Surely Nottingham district is 7b? Merry

Registration didn't become compulsory until 1875.......the birth may simply not have been registered. Reg

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The 7a district is a bit of a funny one,it is really Lincolnshire,but encroaches into parts of Nottinghamshire as well. For instance Collingham is half way between Lincoln and Newark,but a lot of the births were registered in the Lincoln district,as oppossed to the Nottinghamshire (Newark) district.It can also cover Retford births,i think it depends where the informant headed for the market that day!!! Neither Retford or Newark are that far from Edwinstowe,but a bit of a trek back then. Glen