Genealogy Chat

Hello I have just googled them all and found that BETHERIS is actually a surname PARON is a town in FRANCE and Uttar Pradesh India and Rajasthan India and CURSHON is also a surname. I hope these help. Betheris could also be a mis-spelling of BERIS , a Welsh name. Yours Miriam Abbott

LOL Annie - this lot are my mum's line, the Vikings are on my dad's side!

I ran Curshon through a name checker and it says most Curshon's come from Sweden so maybe your ancestors were vikings after all.

Just in case the names occurred somewhere really obscure, I ran them through the search on my copy of the King James Bible on my Palm. None of them occurs, in the spellings shown, anywhere in the KJB (unless it's in one of the Apocryphal books which aren't in the set in the Palm). I reckon a script-interpretation problem is more likely. Christine

Thank you for your input everyone, looks like a combination of flowery handwriting and local Black Country accents. I rather like Betheris now I'm a bit more used to it! I'll go with Gershon & Beatrice as ''modern'' equivalents; keeping an open mind on Aaron till I've seen the original for myself. Incidentally, both parents were literate, perhaps it was the vicar who wasn't particularly well-read!

Aaron can be used for a girl as well. I work in a secondary school and we have a girl pupil called Aaron.

I've googled Curshon & found it as a place name (as well as a surname), though I doubt that's where this family got the inspiration from. his burial record says Curshon too, although he died shortly after his baptism, so it was probably the same vicar making both entries. Its definitely not been used as a surname in these lines as far as I know (not parents/grandparents)

I think the name Saron has biblical connections it is a fairly common girls name and village name in Wales

Hi Vicky I've certainly come across Betteris/Beatrice before Could Curshon be a mishearing or mispelling of Gershon? That IS a biblical name, I believe.

I have some on my tree that have a mothers or grandmothers maiden name as a first name, could this be possible for Curshon. I also have one named after a village I think.

update - re betheris the marriage entry I found for Betrice - there is a death recorded for a Beatrice aged 40. This fits with the baptism for Betheris. If its the same lady she married at 22. I haven't seen the parish register entry for this baptism, so I will now arrange that. Still puzzling about the origin of Curshon though!

I wondered about Aaron too, but have discounted it 1. definitely female 2. baptism & burial are 23 years apart, so 2 different people's original handwriting 3. 2 separate transcriptions have read/misread it as Paron. of course the baptism & burial might be 2 different people, but what a co-incidence if they are

Alter...you have too many ''tits'' in your last reply!! LOLOLOL!! Merry

Lapsed Quakers if the names were ordinary (but then they wouldn't need to be Quakers at all!! LOL) and probably not Quakers at all if the names were more strange than Aaron and Bethany! As another aside..... Quakers would not use names that had any Pagan connotations.....to be honest I don't know what Fore-names would come into this catagory, but they were not allowed to use the names of the months of the year or days of the week, as they are pagan in origin. (this is still the case with many Quakers today.....January is called the 1st month etc) Merry

and Paron must be Aaron- an overexuberant Capitital A with a sloping riser and deep loop sweeping back ......

Im convinced it is Bethany Beth self explanitory eris= when written in cursive with a looped e,followed by the two risers in the n and a shallow tailed y is looking like an s-you really have to mimic the writing.

Is it likely that they were lapsed Quakers? Is it the sort of thing people could follow for a few years then change their minds & go back to being 'Anglican'

Oops, just read your first post again, PROPERLY!! LOL They can't be Quakers, as it was forbidden for a Quaker to enter a church (I'm talking pre-1850's here), never mind attend a service, NEVER MIND be MARRIED in one! They would have been ''disowned'' (that is their membership terminated) by their Quaker Meeting if they had entered a C of E church.....Though they might be re-instated later if their crime wasn't perceived to be too terrible! Quakers conducted their own marriage ceremonies from the mid-1600's onwards. Merry

I've not found any other references to Betheris, and I've tried all sorts of ways of saying it. the nearest (could be this girl's marriage) is Betrice, which I could imagine as Beatrice. I'm trying to trace this lady elsewhere, to see what else it may have been recorded as.

This name betheris-is it a transcription,or can you see the name written? the reason being.......... written in a certain way it could very well be a mistranscription of Bethany,ive tried writing it out and i can see how it could have happened.