Genealogy Chat

Trying to find out the family members of Major John Ovens (1788-1825) who was in the 57th Regiment and among other places, served in Australia. Trying to determine if he was related to Lieutenant John Ovens, also in the 57th Regiment. Lastly, trying to determine if either were related to 'my' John Ovens. Been searching for my John since 1977 (since 1968, technically). Have googled everything I can think of....know lots about the man, but not his family. Thank you.

I think you'd need to get his army records to find his birthdate and place. nell

Thank you, Nell......I've never looked at military records so didn't even think of that. Thank you.

Lisa, you may need to get someone to look him up in Kew. Have you tried to see if he left a Will? Have you tried A2A to see if there is any mention of him? Or the Times Digital Archives? These are Wills on NA documents on line: Will of Ann Ovens, Widow of Brixton, Surrey 12 March 1833 PROB 11/1813 Will of Charles Ovens, Gentleman of Brixton , Surrey 09 January 1824 PROB 11/1680 Will of John Ovens, late Captain in Her Majesty's 57th Regiment of Foot of Corcloon , Fermanagh 22 June 1849 PROB 11/2095 Will of John Ovens, Seaman on the Merchant Ship Bombay 30 March 1843 PROB 11/1976 Right regiment, wrong rank/date? A son possibly?

Heather, I already sent you a message (in reply to your email). Thank you SO much!!! I'm 99% sure that my John was born in Corcloon and seeing that Lieutenant Ovens was 'out of' Corcloon -- perhaps there is a connection! Have to get back to work. :( THANK YOU!!!!!!!! (Only excited because we started looking for this family when I was 11 years old!!)

I put the name into the all-purpose search http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/search/quick_search.aspx and found this, to go with the Wills: War Office: Secretary-at-War, Correspondence, Very Old Series (VOS) and Old Series (OS) WO 43/838 Pension for widow and son of Captain John Ovens, 57th Foot, who died accidently from gun-shot wounds. OLD SERIES War Office: Secretary-at-War, Date range: 1849 - 1861. Christine

Lisa, I'm also researching OVENS and have been trying to determine if there is a connection.

Major John OVENS was born 1788 St Catherine, County Fermanagh, Ireland and died 1825 Sydney Australia. Her never married.

Lt John OVENS was born abt 1811 Corcloon, Fermanagh, Ireland. He married Georgina GREEN 7 Jan 1830 Sydney Australia. Georgina died 21 July 1830

On 9 Sept 1837 Lt OVENS was promoted to Captain. He married a Louisa (date unknown). Issue Emily OVENS BORN 28 Jan 1845 Enniskillen, Fermanagh, Ireland.

Notice for Emily's marriage
Alcock – OVENS at Clifton, Capt. G.B.P. Alcock Bengal Army to Emily,
daughter of the late Capt. OVENS, H.M.’s 57th Regt., AT Christ Church,
Clifton Oct 7 1871 The Pall Mall Gazette (London, England), Saturday,
October 14, 1871

Kimelle ,looking at the date of OP it's unlikely that Lisa will see your reply, if you click on her name and send a private message, she will be notified by GR if they have a current email address for her .

Kimelle
have you noted the date of this thread!! Highly unlikely that Lisa will be looking for any more responses now.

If you want to contact her then click on her name and send a PM .She will receive it if her email address is still the same as it was in 2006 :-)

snap RR :-D

lol Shirley,did we both notice "Looking for decades" in the title and fancy a challenge? :-)

Rose
Absolutely ! my challenge instinct rose (scuse the pun!) to the fore :-D

Tuts ...... decades plus 5 years, there's patience !