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♫ D☺ver Sue

♫ D☺ver Sue Report 12 Aug 2006 11:59

Please hold..... :-)

♫ D☺ver Sue

♫ D☺ver Sue Report 12 Aug 2006 11:59

Any idea what this birth place is likely to be? Also, how can George be FIL to both of them? 1861 Name: Fanny Hunt Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Relation: Daughter-in-law Gender: Female Where born: Mogdore East Cocet of Apeses Civil parish: Stepney Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity Town: London County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Mile End Old Town Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 137 Household Members: Name Age George Barrow 44 Fanny Hunt 23 Samuel Hunt 27

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Aug 2006 12:09

Second question first...........the Hunts are both unmarried, so probably step-children. 'In-law' was commonly used to denote step-children in those days. Reg

Christina

Christina Report 12 Aug 2006 12:10

I'm looking a the image - I think that it says East Coast of Angelsey. I think that Reg is right about these being George's stepchildren, the children of his late wife by an earlier marriage. Christina

Unknown

Unknown Report 12 Aug 2006 12:14

Off to look now, Sue.

♫ D☺ver Sue

♫ D☺ver Sue Report 12 Aug 2006 12:15

Thanks everyone, good luck :-)

Unknown

Unknown Report 12 Aug 2006 12:18

Hm, I see they got their best handwriter to do this page! It looks to me like Mogden East Coast of Apirsey But what it should be is beyond me. I'll take a look at other censuses. nell

♫ D☺ver Sue

♫ D☺ver Sue Report 12 Aug 2006 12:21

Anyone think the last word looks like Africa?

Christina

Christina Report 12 Aug 2006 12:23

I have had a look at a map of Angelsey, there are places called Moelfre and Marian-Glas. I think that pronunciation could account for what was written down by the enumerator. I wonder if any of the Welsh GR members might be able to interpret what the real name of the place could be? Christina

Unknown

Unknown Report 12 Aug 2006 12:23

Have had no luck finding George Barrow or Fanny Hunt in 1851. Can't see anything resembling Mogden/Mogdon/Mogdor in streetmap uk.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 12 Aug 2006 12:25

I thought the last word could be Africa.... and have been Googling for help. I can't find much direct info.... just tours mentioning the word. Gwyn

Unknown

Unknown Report 12 Aug 2006 12:25

Can't see a likely birthplace for Fanny Hunt born 1838 +/- a year on Freebmd.

Christina

Christina Report 12 Aug 2006 12:27

I have had another squint at it and I see where you are coming from with Africa, although I can't make myself see it as that it isn't impossible. C (Oh, lord, I can't spell Anglesey anymore - twice!!)

Unknown

Unknown Report 12 Aug 2006 12:30

Results for Fanny Hunt born 1838 +/- 1 year in 1841 census Fanny Hunt abt 1838 Chenies Buckinghamshire Fanny Hunt abt 1839 Devon, Abbotsham Devon Fanny Hunt abt 1839 Devon,Abbotsham Devon Fanny Hunt abt 1839 Devon,Chulmleigh Devon Fanny Hunt abt 1839 Hampshire, All Saints Hampshire Fanny Hunt abt 1838 Lincolnshire, Holbeach Lincolnshire Fanny Hunt abt 1838 Middlesex, StJames Clerkenwell Middlsx Fanny Hunt abt 1839 Warwickshire, Alcester Warwickshire None of them have a brother called Samuel. I also thought the image might say Africa, except that it does look like the last letter has a downstroke. But again, can't think what it could be. nell

♫ D☺ver Sue

♫ D☺ver Sue Report 12 Aug 2006 12:31

I found a marriage for Samuel Hunt and a Fanny Riley in Sep 1860. Then I've now found a Fanny Riley on the 1851 living in Stepney. That gives her place of birth as Mog then says 'British Subject', so I assume that is her.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 12 Aug 2006 12:31

If it says ...East Coast of........... that suggests to me that it may be overseas and the information was given to clarify the perhaps unknown place name. Gwyn

Christina

Christina Report 12 Aug 2006 12:33

So, if it says British sub, it must be abroad somewhere. Going to take another look.Grr, why did they have to make those marks when they where checking the census returns (rhetorical question, lol)? Looking at world gazeteer I haven't found a Mogador on the east coast of anywhere, only Mogador in Morocco and Mogadouro in Portugal, neither of which are on an east coast. C

Dea

Dea Report 12 Aug 2006 12:44

Am working on it as follows: 1). Don't think George's name is Barrow - looks like 'ss' in the middle. 2). On 1861 image you mention - It does say the Fanny + Samuel are unmarried but at the side of Fanny's name - where the occupation should be - To me, it clearly says 'wife !! There is a marriage of a Samuel Hunt in Stepney, March 1860 to Fanny Mary Ann Riley in Stepney. 3). I believe Samuel is stepson (son-in-law) and Fanny is his wife (therefore daughter in law). I think this is Samuel on 1851 in Stepney - he is a plasterer! Stepney Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town Lower ED, institution, or vessel: 38 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 23 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Hunt 14 Charlott Hunt 11 Harriot Hunt 48 John Hunt 50 Mary Ann Hunt 5 Samuel Hunt 17 Class: HO107; Piece: 1553; Folio: 778; Page: 6; Also, I don't think it is Anglesey I will go and look further. Dea x

Unknown

Unknown Report 12 Aug 2006 12:44

My geography isn't very good, but Mogador is in Morocco, which is the north coast of Africa, isn't it? Mogadishu is on the east coast....

Unknown

Unknown Report 12 Aug 2006 12:47

1881 Name: Fanny M. Hunt Age: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Relation: Wife Spouses's Name: Saml. Gender: Female Where Born: (B S), Africa Civil parish: Mile End Old Town County/Island: London Street address: 1 Hayfield Passage Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Mile End Old Town Sub registration district: Mile End Old Town, Eastern Household Members: Name Age Fanny M. Hunt 43 Fanny M. Hunt 5 Florence Hunt 1 George S. Hunt 9 John Hunt 15 Saml. Hunt 47 Thomas S. Hunt 12 Walter S. Hunt 19 So I think we've established its Africa somewhere!!!