Genealogy Chat

Hi, I have the marriage certificate in October 1920 for Albert Edward Cole which gives his age as 21. I have found a possible birth for him in 1899 in Plymouth which matches other information, but I can't find him in 1901. His father according to the certificate is Alfred Ernest Cole. Mark

What was his father´s occupation ?

Hi Elaine, Father was a Labourer, Albert jnr was a miner Mark

not a lot of help then !!!

Witnesses on marriage certificate ??

Name Age Margaret Atkinson 14 Albert Ed Cole 26 Albert Ed Cole 2 Frederick Cole 6 Mary Honorah Cole 24 William Amb Cole 4 is this him

No, that's what I thought too! Why are all my relatives born 1899 -1902 and virtually impossible to find? Mark

1901 which Valerie has given to you Albert Ed Cole abt 1875 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Head Liverpool Lancashire Albert Ed Cole abt 1899 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Liverpool Lancashire Frederick Cole abt 1895 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Liverpool Lancashire Mary Honorah Cole abt 1877 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Wife Liverpool Lancashire William Amb Cole abt 1897 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Liverpool Lancashire Cant quite read Albert´s occupation - it is ????? / House labourer (can´t read first word)

Elaine, The marriage is a second one for the bride - as far as I know the family moved from Plymouth to Bedwellty, Monmouthshire in 1920 ish, and as far as I know both bride and groom were from Plymouth. Valerie, I don't think that's the one - wrong place as far as I know. Mark

Elaine, Witnesses were Florence Annie Haycock and Lillian Adline Cole Mark

I found this one - wonder if Harry is a nickname Albert Cole abt 1861 Plymouth, Devon, England Head Plymouth Devon Bessie Cole abt 1861 Plymouth, Devon, England Wife Plymouth Devon Frederick Cole abt 1890 Plymouth, Devon, England Son Plymouth Devon Harry Cole abt 1898 Plymouth, Devon, England Son Plymouth Devon Irene Cole abt 1900 Plymouth, Devon, England Daughter Plymouth Devon Lily Cole abt 1894 Plymouth, Devon, England Daughter Plymouth Devon Rhoda Cole abt 1888 Plymouth, Devon, England Daughter Plymouth Devon Albert - stoker on dredger ? - suppose might have been a labourer 20 years later ? We have a Lily here who could have been one of the witnesses - might be worth seeing if we can find her birth to see if she was Lilian Adline, and also parents marriage to see if father was Albert Edward

Not having any luck with either of those suggestions!!

Elaine, I'm having trouble finding that family again in 1891. Can you see them? Mark

Will have a look

Ah, I think I've got Bessie - she's living with her father Thomas Beer, Albert must be at sea dredging or whatever. There is a young Albert, but about 10 years too old for mine! Rhoda on 1901 could be Mary R. on 1891 I suppose, and Frederick on 1901 must be Albert T.F. in 1891? So on this basis Harry could be anybody at all! Mark

Wow - am going round in circles here what about this one in 1891 Harold Beer abt 1890 Plymouth, Devon, England Grandson Charles Devon Julia Beer abt 1828 North Devon Wife Charles Devon Thomas Beer abt 1833 North Devon Head Charles Devon Thomas Beer abt 1874 Plymouth, Devon, England Son Charles Devon Albert T F Cole abt 1890 Plymouth, Devon, England Son Charles Devon Bessie Cole abt 1860 Devonport, Devon, England Daughter Charles Devon Mary K Cole abt 1888 Plymouth, Devon, England Daughter Charles Devon Bessie listed as married Mary is Mary R not Mary K possible birth for Mary - which could match the Rhoda in 1901 Births Dec 1887 Cole Mary Rhoda E Plymouth 5b 234 Bit of a long shot but worth hanging on to for the moment !!

See you got there before me !!!

Albert´s birth Albert Thomas F Cole Year of Registration: 1889 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Plymouth County: Devon Volume: 5b Page: 241 not very useful - what´s the F for !!

Have you seen how many 'Bessie Beer's there were !? Mark

Really cant see anything else - sorry.