Genealogy Chat

OK, So here's James AKA Leo Births Jun 1891 Teer Leo Manchester 8d 295 He's listed as James Leo in 1901. Rose

Rose, yes that could be Ethel. Yes I have him in 1881 census living with his Mother Elizabeth ( no Husband but not a widow). william was 21 siblings Jane 19, Frank 17, John 16, Alice 12, mary 9, Joseph 7, James S 8 mths. Jackie

Jackie, I though this might be Ethel: Births Mar 1898 Teer Ethel Chorlton 8c 915 Perhaps not if the other weren't registered. Do you have William in 1881? Rose

Hi Rose, Sorry had to take a break for a bit ( laundry ). Where did you find ethel's birth? I dont have anything on the others apart from Frank, b. Manchester 22/3/1904. Frank's birth could not be verified cause they could never find a birth cert. Ive been looking for years and only just last week found them all( except Frank ) in 1901 census, mis transcribed as Teen. Ive been suspecting for a while that the first 3 kids were from a different marriage and Frank was born to Lillian. But 1891 census has James as son to Lillian name leo on census...so perhaps Im wrong. So different surnames dont really work unless they were illegitamate? My husbands father has had 3 stokes in past yr and really cant fill me in on any more. Besides I am in Australia and he is in Sark, Channel Islands, so not much more can be revealed. Quite a tricky one I'm afraid! jackie

Jackie, Do you have the births for Lilian, James and Frank? I found Ethel but don't see theirs? Were they born with different surnames? Rose

Hi Portland Rose, yes I found them in 1891, RG 13/3782 Same address.James was only 1 month old. Jackie Actually just checked again...address was 18 Collyhurst St. Manchester...or at least it looks like Collyhurst. J

Jackie, Do you have the family in 1891? Was William married before? Rose

Would that possibly mean that Lillian was a second wife. Children on census were James 1892, Lillian 1895, Ethel, 1898. Frank ( my husbands g/father was born 1904 ). Frank JNr. my husbands father recallls his g/mother as Lillian taylor. Seems strange to marry 23 yrs after first born?? Jackie

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Would that possibly mean that Lillian was a second wife. Children on census were James 1892, Lillian 1895, Ethel, 1898. Frank ( my husbands g/father was born 1904 ). Frank JNr. my husbands father recallls his g/mother as Lillian taylor. Seems strange to marry 23 yrs after first born?? Jackie

Maybe a bit later than you were thinking of - Marriages Jun 1915 Taylor Lilian Salford 8d 263 Teer William S Salford 8d 263 I recently found one of mine marrying 36 years after the birth of their first child!!!

They were living at 50 margaret st, Ashton under Lyne, Ecclesiastical Parish Ashton under Lyne St Peter in 1901. J

have you any idea where abouts in Manchester.....Hayley

Hi Helen, Looked on ancestry but all I get is free bmd...and doesnt show spouses...so not sure how to proceed. jackie

Jacqueline Where have you looked so far? The GRO marriage index images are free to search on Ancestry.

Looking for the Marriage of William Teer to Lillian Elizabeth Taylor, about 1892 ( when first child was born), He was 40, she was 20 in 1901 census. Any help much appreciated. Jackie OOps...she was 30, not 20... j Update....I have found another William Teare born 1861 whose father ws a carpenter named John. William was born manchester, John born IOM. Mother Isabella b. IOM. according to 1871 Census. Found them again in 1861 England census.( Though mistranscribed by Ancestry is Jenbella). Found marriage on GRO ( maiden name Taggart ) married 1851. Trouble is census was taken 1851, (march) and cant find the 1851 census record? Am I dumb or what? My FIL said they came from IOM mid 19th century, so this could be a match too.........bummer just ordered certs for all the others. Any help appreciated. Jackie