Genealogy Chat

Rose - you are a star! Honestly, the frustration this side of the family has been causing me! Doesn't help I'm an impatient so and so. Thank you so much.... it's got to be him I think, despite the mistranscription/mistake with his name. I wonder why he never seems to be with his family, either his parents or later, his wife and children! Thanks again, let's see if that helps! Laura

1851 he's listed as a nephew. This might help: Name: Frederick Redner Age: 13 Estimated birth year: abt 1838 Relation: Nephew Gender: Male Civil parish: Tormoham Town: Torquay County/Island: Devon Country: England Registration district: Newton Abbot Sub-registration district: Torquay ED, institution, or vessel: 5d Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 35 Household Members: Name Age Hanah Brows 5 Henry George Brows 7 Mo Johesa Brows 30 John Brows 50 John Brows 12 Seliza Brows 16 Theodore Brows 13 Thomas Brows 8 William Brows 9 William Dasper 38 Frederick Redner 13 Rose

He's still with a Harvey family in Manaton in 1861: Name: Fredrick Ridner Age: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1837 Relation: Servant Gender: Male Where born: Ashcombe, Devon, England Civil parish: Manaton Ecclesiastical parish: Exeter and Totnes County/Island: Devon Country: England Registration district: Newton Abbot Sub-registration district: Moreton Hampstead ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 13 Household Members: Name Age John H Bennett 3 Thirza Bennett 32 Henry Harvey 25 John Harvey 65 Mary Harvey 65 Fredrick Ridner 24 Rose

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Well, I've been able to find him in 1891 Still not living with Grace, although down as married (as is she on her census). He's in Manaton, 2 doors down to the harvey family from 1841(although not same people exactly!) lodging with the Snell family - Lucy & Thomas and their family. He's down as a gen lab and born in Ashcombe. Still no luck with anything else though! Been trying to chase up the Harvey lead but no joy so far! Laura x

I never thought of that! Yeah, it could be. If a female harvey is the one that married John Pudner. hmmm. How would I go about finding that out? Would I have to look at parish registers etc? You see, so far all my research has been done online/through making connections with people on this site and others... Laura

Looking at the 1841 Census do you think Frederick was living with this grandparents and their children who are listed before him on the form?

Tracing My grandfather's family (Pudner) has proved quite difficult, but I've really hit a stumbling block now and was hoping people maybe able to give me some advice! Frederick Pudner is on the 1841 census aged 4 living at Manaton(devon), but he is the only Pudner in this area on that census. I can't find him on some of the censuses, but on later ones he does put down Ashcombe as his place of birth. In 1866 he marries Grace Spencer from Kennford, Devon, but even though they are down as married, on quite a few of the censuses they are not living together. In fact, I found out just yesterday that they are both still alive in 1901, in fact - he didn't die until Jun 1921 - down as Newton Abbot in the index, actually listed as Manaton. Now, I can find Pudner's in Ashcombe, but not sure if I can count them as his family as he is down as born in Manaton. ??? Why is he on his own in 1841? The parishes aren't right next to eachother or anything.... On his and Grace's marriage certificate the father is down as John Pudner, born c.1910. Any ideas on next steps gratefully received! Laura (ps - sorry if this has been a bit of a ramble, I've spent all day yesterday and today on here and my brain is a bit frazzled!)