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1861 England Census about Louisa Baxendale Name: Louisa Baxendale Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Belton, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Belton County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Thorne Sub-registration district: Epworth ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 45 Household Members: Name Age John Bassindale 2 Mo Ann Baxendale 28 Louisa Baxendale 4 Mary Marphett 17 Robert Rigby 44

Selina and of course Joyce, what do you think about this Ada...fathers name Robert, mother Eliza! 1851 England Census about Ada Baxendale Name: Ada Baxendale Age: 3 Estimated birth year: abt 1848 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Robert Mother's name: Eliza H L Gender: Female Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Cheetham Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Manchester Sub-registration district: Cheetham ED, institution, or vessel: 1j Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 133 Household Members: Name Age Mary Jane Anderson 17 servant Ada Baxendale 3 Eliza H L Baxendale 34 Not Chritm Baxendale 1 this states it's a girl Robert Baxendale 26 Harriett Roberts 4 this persons aged smudge on record but shown as servant View Original Record View original image

Thanks Carol, I was hoping to find Caroline and Louisa. Noticed Louisa age 4 is a servant! Poor little thing, Selena

selina thats agood point about they seem to fit the only different on ada,s marriage cert she names john as her father,i tried to look at 1861 but i dont pay for that so couldnt look,but there worth athought just got to get it right and thank you all for your help joyce

can i just ask do we have parents names for the family in bolton thank you joyce

just looking at the information it does seem that the bassindales and baxendales are the same family,but the mistry is were are the parents,and thank you all for your help joyce

Joyce can we recap who we are looking for: elizabeth bassindale age 19, born belton lincoln, do we know her mother's name! from marriage certificate her father is John! ada what is her relationship to elizabeth is she known to be her sister! Caroline is down as Barnes do you think Caroline was ever married to John! do you know that william was the grandfathers name and that page one of ada, elizabeth and louisa is correct!

on ada marriage cert her father is down as john,now im not sure about elizabeth and ada being sisters as on her marriage cert her father is robert,but i do think there is a connection between the two girls as they both married in west derby liverpool,but i cant recall caroline marrying john,but i keep going back to the girls with there grandfather,its just trying to connect them all in the right places,is this of any help joyce

I am trying to build a picture in my mind. so do we know that Caroline was the name of Elizabeth's mother! so you know william is definatly the name of Elizabeth's grandfather, but not if she had sisters!

i know this might confused even more but ite about elizabeth bassindale in 1890 she married fredrick bottcher,but then in 1899 she married john fredrick jones,but her parents on this print out is father william mother caroline cole. got this from family group record so what would you make of that as on the 1890 marriage cert father is robert

hi carol no im not sure about anything realy as it keeps coming up with different answers but the girls always seem to come up with william elizabeth came up with caroline as he mother,but she was barnes and her daughter bassindale,co were does that leave us its realy hard work with this family of my mum,just when you think you have it right something else coes up

nudge for others to look and perhaps help joyce solve this puzzle!

Hello just trying to catch up with the thread. I think Ada in 1851 with father Robert is wrong person, as I thought our Ada was born around 1870! Still trying to get my head round it. Selena Update: Are we looking for a marriage of Caroline ?? to William Baxendale/Bassindale or to John B

Okay thinking aloud here. Caroline married a Mr Bassindale and had the three girls. He died. Caroline then married a Mr Barnes and he died. The grandchildren are with their Paternal grandparents. Just this sound plausible or have I lost the plot? Selena

Joyce, regarding Elizabeth's marriage certificates What was her father's name on cert when she married Fred Bottcher? When Elizabeth married John Jones, did the cert say Elizabeth Bottcher, formerly Bassindale? Just want to make sure we haven't got two Elizabeths?

on the print out i have of elizabeth it says elizabeth bassindale bottcher but it says now this is confusing that she was born in dorchester dorset england,as when she married mr jones there were married on 26 june 1899 manhattan new york what do you make of that,i think they got the place of birth wrong joyce

For reference 1881 Name: Elizabeth Bassindale Age: 19 Estimated birth year: abt 1862 Relation: Daughter Mother's name: Caroline Gender: Female Where born: Belton, Lincoln, England Civil parish: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 94 Boundary St Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Servant Registration district: Liverpool Sub-registration district: St Martin ED, institution, or vessel: 52 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Caroline Barnes 40 Elizabeth Bassindale 19 John Kayso 19 Robt. Montgomery 23 Joshua Trench 23 John Underwood 25 Caroline is a widow and head of the household The other 4 people are lodgers 1890 from Lancashire BMD site BASSINDALE Elizabeth BOTTCHER Frederick Stoneycroft, All Saints Liverpool 2037WD/1/80 1891 Name: Elizabeth Bottcher Age: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Relation: Wife Gender: Female Where born: Manchester, Christchurch, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Walton On The Hill Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Walton County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: Walton ED, institution, or vessel: 41 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ada Bottcher 8 Elizabeth Bottcher 28 Emily Bottcher 5 Frances Bottcher 10 No husband at home and it gives the children as hers. 1901 Name: Elizabeth Jones Age: 38 Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Doncaster Civil parish: Walton On The Hill Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: Walton ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 64 Household Members: Name Age Francis James Bottcher 20 Frederick Bottcher 9 Elizabeth Jones 38 Lucy Edith Jones 1 3 months The Bottchers are given as step children Doncaster is quite close to Belton Cannot find any marriage for Elizabeth to Mr Jones so maybe America was correct.

The only robert Bassindale that I can find on the 1861 census was born in Belton Name: Robert Bassindale Age: 45 Estimated birth year: abt 1816 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Belton, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Belton County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Thorne Sub-registration district: Epworth ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 90 Household Members: Name Age George Bassindale 14 Mary Bassindale 7 Robert Bassindale 45 Sarah Bassindale 17 He was a widower and cordwainer and the children are said to be his. what was the profession of Elizabeth's father? Robert was again a widower living with daughter Mary in 1871

on elizabeth marriage cert her father robert is a farmer,also frederick bottcher died in 1892

sorry to bother you all again,but does anyone think that ada and elizabeth were sisters or mybe cousins,would the church records be able to say were there were born joyce