Genealogy Chat

I have a friend trying to find the death of her grandad...Born1907 got index numbers. Married 1932 to Mary Boulton, she died.,,he married Shirley Brown 1966 in Spilsby. she left him months later. He died in 1971 in Lincoln Hospital...We have been looking for a some time for a death reg....IF its not registered could you tell me why?..we have a head stone. His name is FRED TAYLOR

we have his birth and theres no middle name and it is fred

I had trouble finding one of my nan's brothers who died as a child - I found out that he was known by his middle name. It wasn't Percy at all but Joseph Percy (the Joseph was named after his father)

Likely reasons are his death was not registered in the name Fred Taylor. Likely he was known as Fred but maybe it was Alfred/ Frederick or Jack. What is the date of death on the headstone. Maybe the headstone has the wrong year of death. It DOES Happen. Sue

If you don't have his death cert, how can you know he died in Lincoln Hospital? If you are going purely on family memory, then they can often be wrong. OC

we know he died in the hospital coz his daughter was there ...she registered her mum death ...but not her fathers !! she is still alive and is wanting the copy of the death cert Can they bury without the death certificate? Headstone says he was 63 but we have checked 5 years each way And it is Fred on all other certificates

Daft question - but does she know if anyone registered the death certificate.

Well she .....'assumed' someone did ...and thats the problem....but how did they bury him if no-one registered the death

You could try contacting the hospital and asking them for details of the death certificate, it must have been issued there by a doctor before being registered. Was he born on 23rd January 1907? If so, there is a Fred Taylor registered at Leeds, volume 2c, page 760 [Ancestry free bmd]

Yes ...I did think of that will they look it out for us? and if its not been registered can it be done today. Still confussed ...dont the undertaker need the death certificate to do the funeral?

It's me again, it could be that the death was registered in a different district to Lincoln. Did you see my update on my previous message? I had this happen to me, I searched everywhere for a death in Wallasey [where the family lived] but I eventually found it registered in the neighbouring district of Birkenhead. You could try contacting the cemetery where he is buried to see if they have the details in their records, as you say, I think you have to have a death certificate before you can be buried.

Yes Glenn..we will contact the place hes buried as they may have more info for us . Thanks so much everyone

The death Glenn found was for 23rd June. When was your Fred born? Rose

I had a similar problem when trying to find the death of my g grandfather George Newell. I had burial records but couldn't find him in the death index. On the basis that anyone can make a mistake I searched for any variant - and found him registered under the name of Nowell. It seems he had died in a nursing home and the death was registered by a member of staff, combined with the handwriting on the death certificate being really untidy. Might it be worth looking for any variant of Taylor, e.g. Tyler?

Hey Rose, I must need my eyes testing, you're right it is the 21st June, but that is the date of birth. The death is in the jan-feb-mar quarter.

sorry 1907 is all I know about his birth....just looked it was dec quater birth My fred was born dec 1907 ...spilsby 7a 519..on bmd free so the death is june?

do you know where?? here are some possibles from www.freebmd.org.uk: Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Births Mar 1907 TAYLOR Fred Goole 9c 979 TAYLOR Frederick Joseph Lincoln 7a 506 Births Sep 1907 Taylor Fred Grimsby 7a 574 Births Dec 1907 TAYLOR Fred Spilsby 7a 519

If they have him born 23rd June and he was registered in Dec qtr that death might not be the correct one. Rose

It looks like we're on to a red herring here! What a shame!

Dont worry ...its been like that all the way through