Genealogy Chat

You're very welcome!

thank you for all your help john

Well, it is diffiuclt 'cos you don't get too much information on the web other than the name, place of registration, and quarter in which they died. All you can do is send off for the certificate and see who reported the death ......... and hope against hope that it was reported by a member of the family, or the address is one you know about! Could be £7 well spent, or wasted! Have to go now, it's lunchtime here (Canada) ....... I'll leave you to the tender mercies of others. I will check back later today to see if anyone ahs been able to help you. Good Luck, Sylvia

Have you seen this death???? The age is not too far out. Deaths Dec 1896 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Archer Henry 28 Lambeth 1d 244

It does seem strange that the grandparents would not have continued to care for Mary, but instead let her go into the pauper school. They had children not much older than her. Unless, of course, they thought they were the best for her, and she was one of those cases where relatives were not informed about the shipping to Canada.

had a look his brother was on their but could not see him

no not very good at finding dead people never can tell if i have found the right person

That is also a possibility of course! Is there anyhting on the War Department site on the Boer War??

Consider the following possibilities:- Children were put into those schools because their parents could not care for them, because they were orphaned, or because no relatives would take responsibility. Children were sent en masse to Canada, Australia, and New Zaland as Home Children, and many of them ended up being used basically as slaves on farms and in homes in those countries. The 'charities' that did this did not always inform the parents or other relatives that the children were to be sent overseas ............. and the children were often told, falsely, that mom/dad were dead and/or not coming back for them. There was very little consultation carried on. One of the darkest periods in the history of children's charities in the UK. ...... and one of the biggest offenders so far as shipping them to Canada was concerned was Dr Barnardo's!! On the other hand, many of the schools, particularly in the London area, did do a very good job of educating children who otehrwise would not have received an education. I wonder if Henry did die, or emigrate, leaving his child to the tender mercies of ............................??????

i dont think their was ever a patrick i think his name was richard and some how ened up putting the name patrick on the census

yes found that one aswell but cant find where henry is hiding unless he went of to the boer war

Found William and Sarah in 1901 ...... but no Henry with them, as you rpobably know! about Beatrice Archer Name: Beatrice Archer Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1889 Relation: Daughter Father's name: William Mother's name: Sarah Gender: Female Civil Parish: Rotherhithe Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: St Olave Southwark Sub-registration district: Rotherhithe ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 198 Household Members: Name Age Beatrice Archer 12 Fredk Archer 19 Sarah Archer 56 William Archer 56

Have you considered the possibility that Henry (and possibly the rest of the fmaily) emigrated?? I've just been doing a quick look, and cannot find Sarah, William or the young Patrick on the 1901 Census. I haven't checked Deaths to see if they died between 1891 and 1901 Sylvia

i have been in contact with henrys child mary rellies in canada and she came over with load of children from a children home

yes that is mary

This isn't poor Mary in 1901 is it? It does seem to fit with her being sent to Canada as a Home Child in 1903! Ignore the Married ........ that's a mis-transcription!! Also the actual image for birth says Unknown followed by ditto mark under London on line above, followed by 'probably Kensington or Chelsea' added in another hand about Mary Archer Name: Mary Archer Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1891 Relation: Married Gender: Female Where born: Unknown Probably Kensington or Chelsea Civil Parish: Ewell Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary the Virgin County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Epsom Sub-registration district: Epsom ED, institution, or vessel: Kensington and Chelsea Schools Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Mary Archer 10 Pauper Scholar

yes that is him but cant find what happened to him after 1891

Is this Hnery with his aprents and Mry (aged 3 months) in 1891??? about Mary A Archer Name: Mary A Archer Age: 3/12 Estimated birth year: abt 1891 Relation: Grandchild Gender: Male Where born: Rotherhithe, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Rotherhithe Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Town: Rotherhithe County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: St Olave Southwark Sub-registration district: Rotherhithe ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Beatrice Archer 3 Charles Archer 13 Fred Archer 4 George Archer 14 Harriet Archer 18 Henry Archer 20 James Archer 25 Mary A Archer 3/12 Patrick Archer 8 Sarah Archer 46 William Archer 46 View Original Record View original image Sylvia

mary elizaberth biggs she died in 1891 i think in child birth because they had one daughter born mary in 1891

so what was the wife's name on the marriage certificate?