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Help please - Baptism but no birth record 1913 WW1

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Oct 2024 10:50

MMN is on freebmd from late 1911, and OP has said she searched the GRO

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 6 Oct 2024 10:32

Get a list of possibles from somewhere like freebmd and Then go to the GRO to look at the mothers names.

Have you his death certificate with a birth date. This could narrow things down, but if he changed his name his later records may show a different birthdate.

greyghost

greyghost Report 5 Oct 2024 22:41

Welcome to the boards Sarah.

MMN can occasionally be wrong on records eg.
Depending how the question was asked at registration. There are registrations where the maiden name of the Mother's mother was given.

OR any chance that the mother had been married before and gave her former name rather than her maiden name, but correctly for the siblings.

Also first names can change - I have a Gt Gt aunt who was registered as Charlotte but never seen on census, nor death records and a child baptised as Sarah Ann, no birth registration and named on following census. I was convinced they were one and the same person - there was not enough time for 2 births between an older and younger sibling. I could only determine they were one and the same person when later records (in New Zealand initially and then Canada) showed her as Sarah Ann Charlotte.

Hubby's Grandmother's birth wasn't registered c 1900/01, maybe he wasn't.

As ErikaH says - give us as much detail as you can - names year and places of birth of him, siblings and parents etc., plus where they lived and helpers here will see if they can find any info. What was his name and what did he change it to.

Do you know where he was born - try the local register office in case a copy of the registration didn't reach GRO.

Names don't have to be changed by deed poll, but you might need one to change official documents if required

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 5 Oct 2024 20:07

Have you looked for him using just surnames in case they had not chosen forenames at the time of registration?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Oct 2024 18:21

I doubt that changing his name in later life would cause his birth registration to be adjusted in any way.

If you want helpers to try to find info - names and locations, please.

Is there a birth date on the baptism record? Does it tally with any later records?

Purely for info - WW1 didn’t start until 1914, so the father’s service should have no bearing on the issue, unless he was a regular serviceman, as opposed to one who served only during the conflict

sarah

sarah Report 5 Oct 2024 18:07

Help please, Im going round in circles!

I have a baptism record for my grandfather but no birth record. I have searched the GRO for births in the timeframe widening the search to the whole UK and just focussing on the mothers maiden name = NOTHING. His older siblings are both registered. I know his father served in WW1and was KIA in France. Im aware that not having a birth certificate would have caused issues and the fact that his older siblings were registered doesn't make sense.

Now to complicate things I know that my grandfather changed his surname in the 1930s, possibly for the 1939 register before he enlisted. I do not know if he did this officially via deed poll or similar or just via the 1939 register.

Has anyone come across a similar issue? Is it possible that if he did officially change his name that his birth record would be deleted or changed? (I have searched for his later name too)

Any ideas where I go next??

Thanks in advance
Sarah