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I looked on the Hampshire Record Office site, where you can search their holdings, but didn't find anything which would help your quest, but will post the link in case someone else spots something.

https://www.hants.gov.uk/librariesandarchives/archives

( I recognised the name Crofton, it must be close to where, as a temp. I did Christmas post parcel deliveries back in the day, then the vans headed to a cafe in Titchfield before going back to the sorting office in Fareham ;-) )

Pictures of Crofton House here

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/234657557565

This from National Archives - records held by Northumberland Archives not at NA

The Crofton house Estate, Titchfield

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/8760a2ae-b645-4405-bc5f-1c7e7d49d521

Northumberland Archives -
QEII Country Park
Ashington
England
NE63 9YF

01670 624 358
[email protected]

Open Wed - Fri 10---4 and first Sat of month 10-4

Did you find this?

https://jsbookreader.blogspot.com/2013/12/crofton-house-titchfield.html

Thank you everyone for trying to help, think my family are a lost course. Wish Crofton House documents still remained as may have thrown some light on him.

Thank you all for trying to help me I really appreciate it

Kim xx

A guess for Sarah - because of location and age - but impossible to prove in the absence of a marriage to James Buddell:

Sarah Theobald
in the 1851 England Census
Name Sarah Theobald [Sarah Theabald] [Theobalds]
Age 15
Estimated Birth Year abt 1836
Relation Daughter
Father's Name Jesse Theabald
Mother's Name Elizabeth Theabald
Gender Female
Where born Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England
Civil parish Islington
Ecclesiastical parish Trinity
County/Island Middlesex
Country England
Registration district Islington
Sub-registration district Islington West
ED, institution, or vessel 22
Neighbors
Household schedule number 93
Piece 1499
Folio 448
Page number 19
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Jesse Theabald 52 Head, carpenter
Elizabeth Theabald 57 Wife
Frederick Theabald 21 Son
Eliza Theobald 22 Daughter
Sarah Theobald 15 Daughter
Charlotte Theobald 13 Daughter


Sarah Theobald
in the 1861 England Census
Name Sarah Theobald
Gender Female
Age 22
Relation Sister-in-law
Estimated Birth Year 1839
Where born Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England
Civil parish Islington
Ecclesiastical parish St Paul
County/Island Middlesex
Country England
Registration district Islington
Sub-registration district Islington East
ED, institution, or vessel 13
Neighbors
Household schedule number 100
Piece 141
Folio 13
Page number 20
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Henry Mills 30 Head
Eliza Mills 30 Wife
Harry Frederick Mills 5 Son
Elizabeth Mary Mills 3 Daughter
Arthur Cribble Mills 7/12 Son
Sarah Theobald 22 Sister-in-law
Charlotte Theobald 20 Sister-in-law
Elizabeth Burbage 16 Servant


Sarah Flore Theobald
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1938
Name Sarah Flore Theobald
Gender Female
Record Type Marriage
Marriage Date 22 Apr 1863
Marriage Place Saint Paul, Canonbury: Essex Road, Islington, England
Father Jesse Theobald [builder ]
Spouse Charles John Palmer
Register Type Parish Register


Sarah Flora Palmer
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name Sarah Flora Palmer
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Death Registration Place Islington, London, United Kingdom
Death Date Jun 1865
Inferred Death Place London, United Kingdom
Volume 1b
Page 213


Her mother was Elizabeth Crible, married Henry Burbage in 1814, was widowed, then married Jesse Theobalds in 1823

Possible 1871 for the father.

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Crofton House, Titchfield, Fareham, Hampshire, England
View original record
Household members (14 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Wingate Head
- Male 59 1812 K c s j major r e retired list j p for soukiton landnaper Scotland, Scotland
Agnes Wingate Wife
- Female 53 1818 - Scotland, Scotland
Alice C Wingate Daughter
- Female 24 1847 - Tudeley, East Indies
Agnes A G M Wingate Daughter
- Female 20 1851 - Tudeley, East Indies
George M Wingate Son
- Male 13 1858 Scholar Litchfield, Hampshire, England
John Haines Servant
- Male 29 1842 Butler N K, Oxfordshire, England
James Buddle Servant
- Male 34 1837 Coachman London, Middlesex, England unmarried

plus other servants

James Buddle, Coachman, born c1837, was unmarried in 1871

His parents don't seem to have married - unless I've missed it.

Just for our reference:

BUDDELL, JAMES CHARLES THEOBALDS mmn THEOBALDS
GRO Reference: 1858 D Quarter in MARYLEBONE Volume 01A Page 390


Charles J Buddel
in the 1861 England Census
Name Charles J Buddel
Gender Male
Age 2
Relation Visitor
Estimated Birth Year 1859
Where born Marylebone, Middlesex, England
Civil parish St Pancras
Town St Stephen
County/Island Middlesex
Country England
Registration district Pancras
Sub-registration district Kentish Town
ED, institution, or vessel 2
Neighbors
Household schedule number 284
Piece 119
Folio 76
Page number 47
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Charles Dovey 53 Head
Selina Dovey 50 Wife
Selina M A Dovey 17 Daughter
Samuel F J Dovey 12 Son
Rebecca Dovey 11 Daughter
Charles J Buddel 2 Visitor


Chas.A. Buddell
in the 1881 England Census
Name Chas.A. Buddell [James Charles Theobalds Buddell]
Age 24
Estimated Birth Year abt 1857
Relationship to Head Lodger
Gender Male
Where born Islington, Middlesex, England
Civil parish St Mary Islington
County/Island London
Country England
Street Address Jessamine Cottage
Marital Status Married
Occupation Milkman
Registration district Islington
Sub registration district Islington East
ED, institution, or vessel 95
Neighbors
Piece 279
Folio 128
Page number 53
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Wm.T. Baldwin 31 Head
Emily M. Baldwin 28 Wife
Emily A. Baldwin 5 Daughter
Wm.J.F. Baldwin 4 Son
Albert E. Baldwin 3 Son
Chas.A. Baldwin Son
Chas.A. Buddell 24 Lodger <<<<<<<<<
Jane E. Buddel 26 Lodger <<<<<<<<<
Jessie L. Buddell Lodger <<<<<<<<<

1911 Census For England & Wales
20 Rupert Road Holloway N, Islington, London & Middlesex, England

Household members (5 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Buddell Head
Married Male 53 1858 Iron plate worker London W
Jane Buddell Wife
Married Female 55 1856 - St Lukes
Alice Buddell Daughter
Single Female 27 1884 Home work Islington
Florence Buddell Daughter
Single Female 25 1886 Bookfolder St Pancras
Elizabeth Buddell Daughter
Single Female 22 1889 General servant domestic St Pancras


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
56, Cromwell Road, Islington, London & Middlesex, England

Household members (6 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James C Buddell Head
Married Male 45 1856 Tank engineers labourer St George's, Somerset, England
Jane E Buddell Wife
Married Female 46 1855 - St Luke's
Alice M Buddell Daughter
Single Female 18 1883 - Islington, England
Ada E Buddell Daughter
Single Female 17 1884 Domestic serv Islington, England
Florence A Buddell Daughter
Single Female 15 1886 Bible bookfolder St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Charles J Buddell Son
- Male 11 1890 - St Pancras, Middlesex, England

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
62, Wellington Road, Islington, London & Middlesex, England

Household members (8 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James C Buddell Head
Married Male 35 1856 Milk carrier London, Middlesex, England
Jane E Buddell Wife
Married Female 37 1854 Charwoman London, Middlesex, England
Jessie L Buddell Daughter
Single Female 10 1881 Scholar London, Middlesex, England
Alice M Buddell Daughter
- Female 9 1882 Scholar Islington, Middlesex, England
Ada E Buddell Daughter
- Female 7 1884 Scholar Islington, Middlesex, England
Florence A Buddell Daughter
- Female 5 1886 Scholar London, Middlesex, England
Elizabeth M Buddell Daughter
- Female 2 1889 - London, Middlesex, England
Charles J Buddell Son
- Male 1 1890 - London, Middlesex, England


He died 1938.

The census you show is him thank you

ErikaH
The only place I think I found his father (as he was a Gentleman's Coachman) was in 1871 census in (i think) Titchfield or something like that House as a coachman, but when I rang the local estate agent they told me the house had burnt down and all records destroyed

Kim

Here he is in 1921.

1921 Census Of England & Wales
31, Marlborough Road, Islington, London & Middlesex, England

Household members (3 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer
James Charles Buddell Head
Male 1857 63 West End, London, England Iron Plate Worker Highton & Son
Alice Maund Buddell Daughter
Female 1883 38 Hornsey, London, England Daily Domestic Private
Ada Emily Buddell Daughter
Female 1885 36 Hornsey, London, England Parlour Maid Private

You haven’t said who registered his birth………if you could find that detail, it may - but may not, of course - be helpful

ErikaH
Its a birth cert He was born 7 Quebec St, London, son of James Buddell and Sarah Buddell (nee Theobalds), if my memory serves me right he was with the Davy family 1861 but name wrong way round, then he goes missing and returns 1881 with his wife Emma Hall, you'll never find them, complete mystery lol

I presume your info about the names of the parents come from a birth cert?

Was he born ‘at home’? If so, what was the address? Who registered the birth?

JCT does not seem to be on any census before 1891……certainly not as transcribed by FMP

Hi ArgyllGran

Yep Roger and I have both been looking for JCT's (James Charles Theobalds) parents but never found them, so I check ancestry sites every few years just incase some one has found something I've missed.

Thank you for replying
Kim

Someone named Roger has James Buddell, born 1858 in London, in his tree - per Search all Member Trees.

If you're using "Search all Member Trees", and not finding your relatives, try not putting in the year of birth, or place of birth.

If still nothing, it will mean that nobody else has your relatives in their GR tree.

Some names in my tree are there in other people's trees on "Search all Member Trees" - some with correct YOBs, and some a year or two out.

Namelessone
Thanks for replying
I was just putting in James Buddell and James Charles Buddell 1858. Have never found his parents James Buddell & Sarah Theobalds so check sites every now again

Kim