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Ian -

the William Stewart mgnv has been looking into is William Stewart, the father of Jeanie Ralston Stewart, wife of your William Gibson.

Hi mgnv,

The William Stewart I'm looking for has the surname of GIBSON which I mentioned at the start.

Regards
Ian

William's m.cert shpuld give his parents - so below is just a guess

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQ5K-W52
Name William Stewart
Gender Male
Birth Date 15 Apr 1855
Birthplace PORTPATRICK,WIGTOWN,SCOTLAND
Father's Name James Ferguson Stewart
Mother's Name Elizabeth Hewitt

Mary Stewart
Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth:5 May 1863
OLD LUCE, WIGTOWN, SCOTLAND
father:James Stewart
mother:Elizabeth Hewitt

Agnes Mccaskie Stewart
Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth:18 May 1861
OLD LUCE, WIGTOWN, SCOTLAND
father:James Ferguson Stewart
mother:Elizabeth Hewitt

William Stewart
Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth:15 April 1855
PORTPATRICK, WIGTOWN, SCOTLAND
father:James Ferguson Stewart
mother:Elizabeth Hewitt

Elizabeth Stewart
Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth:16 June 1859
OLD LUCE, WIGTOWN, SCOTLAND
father:James Stewart
mother:Elizabeth Hewit

Margt. Mcwhinny Stewart
Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth:4 April 1857
OLD LUCE, WIGTOWN, SCOTLAND
father:Jas. Stewart
mother:Eliz. Hewit



Wigtown is complete 1841-1871 at https://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

1861 Census
Piece: SCT1861/894 Place: Old Luce -Wigtownshire Enumeration District: 2
Civil Parish: Old Luce Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 0 Page: 11 Schedule: 47
Address: Drumflower Cottage
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
STEWART James F Head M M 36 Ploughman Wigtownshire - Inch 4 rooms
STEWART Elisabeth Wife M F 33 Wigtownshire - Inch
STEWART Ann Dau U F 10 Wigtownshire - Inch
STEWART John Son - M 9 Wigtownshire - Inch
STEWART Sarah Dau - F 7 Wigtownshire - Inch
STEWART William Son - M 6 Wigtownshire - Inch
STEWART Marget Dau - F 3 Wigtownshire - Glenluce
STEWART Elisabeth Dau - F 1 Wigtownshire - Glenluce
NX 140 580
You can look up "NX 140 580" at http://www.streetmap.co.uk/
[You really want zoom level 3 or 4 - here the blue grid lines are 1 km apart]
or at https://www.old-maps.co.uk/index.html#/ for a period map
[NB 1:10560 is too small scale - you really want 1:2500
Also clicking on the ble square at top right turns the blue off]


1851 Census
Piece: SCT1851/886 Place: Inch -Wigtownshire Enumeration District: 9
Civil Parish: Inch Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Village Of Lochans
Folio: 878 Page: 7 Schedule: 22
Address: Mount Pleasant
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
STEWART James Head M M 27 Farm Servant Wigtownshire - Inch
STEWART Elizabeth Wife M F 25 Wigtownshire - Inch
STEWART Joseph Son - M 4 Wigtownshire - Stoneykirk
STEWART Ann Dau - F 1 Wigtownshire - Inch
STEWART John Son - M 3m Wigtownshire - Inch
WRIGHT James Lodger W M 33 Mason Ireland - -
WRIGHT John Lodger - M 8 Scholar Ireland - -


1841 Census
Piece: SCT1841/886 Place: Inch -Wigtownshire Enumeration District: 7
Civil Parish: Inch Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Inch
Folio: 7 Page: 3
Address: Barsolas
Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
GUNION Robert M 67 Farmer Wigtownshire
Page: 7/4 GUNION Ann F 46 Wigtownshire
READ Jean F 20 Female Servant Wigtownshire
HEWIT Elizabeth F 15 Female Servant Wigtownshire
KERR Elizabeth F 45 Female Servant Wigtownshire
NX 104 566

Same page:
Piece: SCT1841/886 Place: Inch -Wigtownshire Enumeration District: 7
Civil Parish: Inch Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Inch
Folio: 7 Page: 4
Address: Barsolas
Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
HEWITT Joseph M 46 Ag Lab Ireland
HEWITT Ann F 56 Outside Census County (1841)
HEWITT Margaret F 20 Wigtownshire
HEWITT Andrew M 11 Wigtownshire


1851 Census
Piece: SCT1851/886 Place: Inch -Wigtownshire Enumeration District: 8
Civil Parish: Inch Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 878 Page: 6 Schedule: 18
Address: Barnultoch
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
HEWIT Joseph Head M M 56 Agricultural Labourer Ireland - -
HEWIT Ann Wife M F 66 Labourer's Wife Renfrewshire - Eaglesham(Originally: Lanarkshire - Eaglesham)
HEWIT Margt Dau U F 30 Stocking Knitter Wigtownshire - Inch


http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/165290
NX0856 : Barnultoch, near Lochans
Subject Location NX 089 569 [100m precision]

You're welcome!

If you would like more help with Robert, please let us know everything the cert says about his parents.

WOW HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP hahaha
Its going to take time but I'll get through all your info THANKS.
I've got the marriage cert from SP of Robert and Jeanie, its a bit hazy though.
Argyllgran your a star!

You'll have to buy credits on SP to see the image of Robert Gibson & Jeanie's marriage cert, to see his parents' details.

Robert Gibson is too common a name to research without more identifying detail.

The family in 1891, without Jeanie Ralston, who's with her aunt & uncle Helen & Frank, as already posted:

William Stewart
in the 1891 Scotland Census
Name: William Stewart
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Jane Stewart
Gender: Male
Where born: Darish Inch, Wigtonshire [original probably says Parish Inch, Wigtownshire ]
Registration Number: 639
Registration district: Dalziel
Civil Parish: Dalziel
Town: Motherwell
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 10 Paterson St
Occupation: Ironworker
ED: 8
Household schedule number: 144
LINE: 9
Roll: CSSCT1891_235
Household Members:
Name Age
William Stewart 35 - ironworker (change of occupation)
Jane Stewart 33
James Stewart 12
William Stewart 10
John Stewart 7
Elizabeth Stewart 5
Alexander Stewart 8mos
David Smith 20 - lodger, ironworker

Jeanie Ralston Stewart -


Jane Stewart
in the 1881 Scotland Census
Name: Jane Stewart
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relationship: Daughter
Father's name: William Stewart
Mother's name: Jane Stewart
Gender: Female
Where born: Hamilton, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 647
Registration district: Hamilton
Civil Parish: Hamilton
Town: Hamilton
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 7 Haddow St
ED: 16
Household schedule number: 115
LINE: 2
Roll: cssct1881_260
Household Members:
Name Age
William Stewart 25 - Insch, Wigtownshire - policeman
Jane Stewart 23 - Hamilton
Jane Stewart 4
James Stewart 2
William Stewart 2 Weeks
Elizabeth Stewart 52 - mother - Insch, Wigtownshire
Alexander Reid 22 - lodger, policeman

Jane (Jeannie Gibson's mother) and sister Helen (Ellen):


Janet K Patrick
in the 1871 Scotland Census
Name: Janet K Patrick
[Janet R Patrick]
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relationship: Daughter
Father's name: William Patrick
Mother's name: Jane K Patrick
Gender: Female
Where born: Hamilton, Lanark
Registration Number: 647
Registration district: Hamilton
Civil Parish: Hamilton
Town: Hamilton
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 16 Hope Terr
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 16
Household schedule number: 125
LINE: 10
Roll: CSSCT1871_145
Household Members:
Name Age
William Patrick 55
Jane K Patrick 41 - middle initial mistranscribed
James Patrick 15
Jane G W Patrick 13
Janet K Patrick 11 - middle initial mistranscribed
Ellen Patrick 7
Agnes Hille Culloch 5




Janet R Patrick
in the 1861 Scotland Census
Name: Janet R Patrick
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relationship: Daughter
Father's name: William Patrick
Mother's name: Jane Patrick
Gender: Female
Where born: Hamilton, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 647
Registration district: Hamilton
Civil Parish: Hamilton
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 7, Hope Street
ED: 16
Household schedule number: 120
LINE: 17
Roll: CSSCT1861_115
Household Members:
Name Age
William Patrick 46
Jane Patrick 30
James Patrick 5
Jane Patrick 3
Janet R Patrick 1


Her birth ??

PATRICK
JANET ROBERTSON
F
1859
647/ 496
Hamilton

So - Jeannie Gibson nee Stewart's parents' marriage ???

STEWART
WILLIAM
PATRICK
JANE
1876
647/ 59
Hamilton

Jeanie Stewart
in the 1891 Scotland Census
Name: Jeanie Stewart
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relationship: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Hamilton, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/11
Registration district: Hutchesontown
Civil Parish: Glasgow Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 138 Aitkenhead Rd
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 106
Household schedule number: 13
LINE: 19
Roll: CSSCT1891_289
Household Members:
Name Age
Frank Lambie 30
Helen Lambie 27
Jeanie Lambie 5 Mos
Jeanie Stewart 14


Frank & Helen's marriage:

LAMBIE
FRANK
PATRICK
HELEN
1889
647/ 188
Hamilton






Helen Patrick
in the Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
Name: Helen Patrick
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 14 Mar 1864
Birth Place: Hamilton,Lanark,Scotland
Father: William Patrick
Mother: Jane Ralston <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
FHL Film Number: 6035516

Re the William S Gibson in Newbattle in 1911 posted by DetEcTive -

[DELETED, AS THAT'S THE WRONG FAMILY]

Jeanie's death:

JANE RALSTON GIBSON/ STEWART
Age: 80
Year of death: 1957
Ref: 639/ 445
RD Name: Dalziel
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Ian, I'll leave there until you confirm William's parents were Jeanie Stewart and Robert Gibson.

Jeanie in 1901

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Alstonville, Cadzow Street, Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Mary Lee Dykes Head Widow Female 64 1837 England Living On Own Means
Jeannie Ralston Stewart Servant Single Female 24 1877 Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Servant (Domestic)
Margaret Henderson Kennedy Servant Single Female 19 1882 Blackwood, Lanarkshire Servant (Domestic)

Possible marriage for William's parents (note Jeanie's middle name):

JEANIE RALSTON STEWART
ROBERT GIBSON

Year of marriage: 1904
Ref: 639/ 131
RD Name: Dalziel

You don't say what his father's name is listed as, but there is this entry for 1911 census in Blantyre which seems more likely (Can't see the original but all have the same reference number):

1911 Ref 624/ 5/ 2 Blantyre Lanark

ROBERT GIBSON M age 46
THOMAS GIBSON M age 54
JEANIE GIBSON F, age: 34
WILLIAM GIBSON M age 5

Not seeing his death in 1974:


Possible death?
WILLIAM STEWART GIBSON

Age: 71

Mother's maiden name: STEWART

Year of death: 1977

Ref: 613/ 280

RD Name: Glasgow, Martha St

Hi Det
Thanks, that seems like him, didn't realise they moved to Midlothian.
I've just got his Marriage Cert and what's been confusing is that mothers maiden name is Stewart and not Ralston (middle name).
I'll delve into it in the morning.

Who are his parents? Perhaps we can find their marriage? That normally names their own parents.

If its useful to find out where his father was born, is William living with them on the 1911 census? That census is only available on Scotlandspeople. Transcriptions for 1901 and earlier are on GR and other sites.

Would this be William on the 1911?
GIBSON WILLIAM S
Census 1911
M(ale)
Age 6
Ref 695/A 9/ 29
RD name Newbattle
County Midlothian

I've done that and got his Birth Cert and from that his parents but, can't find his grandparents on his fathers side.