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James Wade 1770 Shipwright Bermondsey Surrey.
This is a grandfather that I can’t seem to find out much about him or his parents.
I would be very grateful for any help.Thanks :-)

Just to get a handleon things .........
is this your James Wade in 1841??

1841 Census

Name: James Wade
Age: 71
Estimated birth year: abt 1770
Gender: Male
Where born: Surrey, England
Civil Parish: St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey
Hundred: Brixton (Eastern Division)
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Registration district: St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey
Sub-registration district: St James

Piece: 1048
Book: 1
Folio: 48
Page Number: 24

James Wade 71 Independent
Ann Pine 22 Female Servant

Address:- Charlotte Row


Do you have any other evidence of his birth year??

If not, are you aware that ages of people over the age of 15 were rounded down to the nearest 5 on the 1841 Census (and only on that census)?

If James' age was round down, it means that he could have been between 71 and 74 .............. or born between ca 1765 and 1770.

?????? possible????

London, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812

Name: James Wade
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 17 Jun 1770
Baptism Place: St Paul, Shadwell, Tower Hamlets, Middlesex, England
Father: Robert Wade
Mother: Mary Wade
Register Type: Parish Register

from image:-

Father Mastmaker, in G Market

who did James marry?

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D76777

(His Will (if him?)

England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858 (Ancestry)

(should be on above)

Chris :)

https://tinyurl.com/yakqwok3

(google item of him on above, relating to a Edward Wade, Bottom of page)

Hi Sylvia Thank you for your help .
Yes I think we are talking about the same person in Charlotte Row .I think he was married to Elizabeth but can’t find a married anywhere or her surname.
Edward was his son a furrier by trade .
Robert perhaps could be his father thought on census James is down as be born in surrey but that doesn’t mean a thing .Tower hamlets is possibly as it’s not that far away from Bermondsey.

Hi Chris Thank you for finding this Will which quite difficult to read the writing.
The newspaper article is the right Edward Wade and James the father.Very interesting .Thanks again

James
Last name Wade
Age at death 72
Birth year 1770
Burial year 1842
Burial date ? ? 1842
Denomination Anglican
Residence Charlotte Row
Residence county Surrey
Parish Bermondsey, St Mary Magdalen
County Surrey
Source South London Burials Index 1545-1905
Record set Greater London Burial Index
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Burials
Collections from England, Great Britain

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Name James Wade
Gender Male
Record Type Marriage
Marriage Date 22 Oct 1790
Marriage Place St Andrew Holborn City of London, England
Spouse Elizabeth Whitehead
Register Type Parish Register
Household Members
Name Age
James Wade
Elizabeth Whitehead

if father was Robert
????

First name(s) Robert
Last name Wade
Age at death 65
Birth year 1740
Burial year 1805
Burial date 13 Jan 1805
Denomination Anglican
Residence Bermondsey
Residence county Surrey
Parish Rotherhithe, St Mary
County Surrey
Notes [PAGE 186]
Source South London Burials Index 1545-1905
Record set Greater London Burial Index
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Burials
Collections from England, Great Britain

Name: Robert Wade
Gender: Male
Record Type: Christening (Baptism)
Baptism Date: 1 Feb 1740
Baptism Place: St Mary, Rotherhithe, Southwark, Surrey, England
Father: John Walmsley
Mother: Elisabeth Walmsley
Register Type: Parish Regist

is this his daughter
Name Mary Ann Wade
Gender Female
Record Type Baptism
Baptism Date 6 Feb 1792
Baptism Place St Mary, Rotherhithe Southwark, Surrey, England
Father James Wade
Mother Elizabeth Wade
Register Type Parish Register
Household Members
Name Age
Mary Ann Wade
Elizabeth Wade
James Wade

On that Will, his wife Louisa Wade (Children) Mary Ann Pearson, Orlando Wade, John Wade, Elizabeth Wade and Edward Wade.

His Burial 1842 Sept 20th Charlotte Street 72 (on Ancestry, London Burials)

Chris :)

(if Mary Ann Wade/John Pearson Marriage 1812 Spitalfields)

(Louisa a second Marriage. Orlando Baptism (1800 Bermondsey) his Mother Elizabeth)


Edits (possible, if his Father Robert) (as Baptism posted)

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D350199

(checking above Ancestry, James (Boat Builder) is mentioned, also below)

(wife Mary, Son Billy Wade, Mast Maker Rotherhithe, Daughter Mary, wife of John Hepburn Bermondsey, Boat Builder, Daughter Martha, wife of James Jobson Rotherhithe, Cooper)


Greater London Burial Index Transcription (Find My Past) (also, Ancestry, London)

First name(s) Robert
Last name Wade
Age at death 65
Birth year 1740
Burial year 1805
Burial date 13 Jan 1805
Denomination Anglican
Residence Bermondsey
Residence county Surrey
Parish Rotherhithe, St Mary
County Surrey


https://tinyurl.com/yc8w9pgy

(some Wades on above, more snippets on a google search)

Thank you Maddie it does look as if Robert is the father.I noticed on Roberts baptism father down asJohn Walmsley could that have been a mistake and Walmsley being mothers surname .
I must say how helpful this information has been .many thanks

Hi Chris I had seen. The name Louisa on the will but hadn’t thought it could have been a second marriage.
I must say I have been trying for sometime to find this information and in just a few hours I have answers many thanks to all these people help.

could this be his 2nd marriage
he is a widower
Name: James Wade
Gender: Male
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 27 Dec 1815
Marriage Place: St Mary, Newington, Southwark, England
Spouse: Louisa Jebb
Register Type: Parish Register

Looks a good possibility I shall look farther into it.

hi Jill
re the walmsley connection
can't find a wade / walmsley marraige but found this
maynot be connected tho
John
Last name Walmsley
Residence KEN Deptford
Marriage year 1738
Marriage date 20 Mar 1738
Marriage place Southwark St Saviour
Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth
Spouse's last name Lane
Spouse's residence SRY Rotherhithe
Source Parish Register Transcripts
County Surrey
Country England
Record set Surrey Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages

Yes I agree it seems strange Roberts parents have the Walmsley surname .