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31 Aug 2017 12:09 |
Hi, Peeps. I am almost certain that I have Timperley's in the USA. I have them placed in Massachusettes around 1650 but not under Timperley, they are the Sheldon branch, via marriage. There are Timperley's in Nebraska that had Farms within 1/2 mile of my family in England in the late 1800's, yet I cannot link them in. Where do I go from here? TIA.
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31 Aug 2017 15:49 |
As you've headed your thread "Emigration" I assume you're looking for emigration records for these Timperleys?
Where were your family in England?
A quick look at the US censuses does show a large number of Timperley households in Nebraska! For example, this John was apparently born in England:
John Timperley in the 1880 United States Federal Census Name: John Timperley Age: 56 Birth Date: Abt 1824 Birthplace: England Home in 1880: Union and Jefferson, Douglas, Nebraska, USA Dwelling Number: 90 Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Self (Head) Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Mary A. Timperley Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: England Occupation: Farmer Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Timperley 56 Mary A. Timperley 49 Thomas P. Timperley 23 Jane P. Timperley 19 Allice M. Timperley 17 Albert Timperley 16 Edward A. Timperley 14 Phebey E. Timperley 12 Walter W. Timperley 9 Clarance L. Timperley 8 Frank H. Timperley 6
Although 1870 says he was born in Nebraska -
John Temperly in the 1870 United States Federal Census Name: John Temperly Age in 1870: 49 Birth Year: abt 1821 Birthplace: Nebraska Dwelling Number: 315 Home in 1870: Douglas, Nebraska Gender: Male Occupation: Farmer Father of Foreign Birth: Y Mother of Foreign Birth: Y Male Citizen Over 21: Y Personal Estate Value: 3000 Real Estate Value: 8000 Household Members: Name Age John Temperly 49 Mary A Temperly 43 Sarah Temperly 18 Mary Temperly 16 Thomas P Temperly 13 Jane P Temperly 11 Alice M Temperly 9 Albert Temperly 7 Edward Temperly 5 Phebe Temperly 3 Walter W Temperly 1
What research have you already done - so that we don't duplicate?
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31 Aug 2017 20:32 |
Hi ArgyllGran, I've not done much research for a few years due to other commitments. To answer your questions. My family were farmers in Cheshire, notably Limetree Farm which was in Sale Cheshire; Great Grandfather Ezra Timperley born in 1834. Limetree school now occupies the site I believe. I cannot find any links that would get me into the USA, My tree radiates around Bowden Parish in Altrincham, Cheshire where many of the BDM'S are located. not much but I hope this is helpful.
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ArgyllGran
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1 Sep 2017 21:44 |
Unfortunately, Dave, the fact that there are no further replies from anyone means we haven't been able to find anything conclusive, either!
Have you any thoughts on roughly when (even to within 10 or 20 years) any of your Timperleys might have gone to USA?
So far, I can't find any records mentioning both Cheshire and Nebraska. There are some Timperleys who went from Cheshire to New York and Massachusetts area.
And there are lots in Nebraska ,including some from England, but no specific mention of Cheshire.
For example, there's this man (looks like the one in my previous post) - but from Manchester, not Cheshire:
John Timperley in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current Name: John Timperley Birth Date: 22 Mar 1821 Birth Place: Manchester, Metropolitan Borough of Manchester, Greater Manchester, England Death Date: 23 Jan 1891 Death Place: Omaha, Douglas County, Nebraska, United States of America Cemetery: Mount Hope Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place: Omaha, Douglas County, Nebraska, United States of America Has Bio?: Y Spouse: Mary Ann (Mitchell) Timperley (1827 - 1912)* Children: John Poole Timperley (1845 - 1926)* George T. Timperley (1848 - 1864)* Sarah Timperley Bolin (1851 - 1940)* Mary Timperley Taylor (1853 - 1955)* Thomas Poole Timperley (1856 - 1898)* Jane Plant Timperley Tope (1858 - 1930)* Alice Marion Timperley Wilt (1862 - 1930)* Albert Timperley (1863 - 1933)* Edward Abbott Timperley (1865 - 1952)* Phoebe Emallen Timperley Mingus (1867 - 1949)* Walter Willis Timperley (1869 - 1951)* Clarence Lee Timperley (1871 - 1897)* Frank Hoen Timperley (1874 - 1956)*
From findagrave: John was born in Manchester, Lancashire, England. John immigrated to the United States around 1840 and settled in Nauvoo, Illinois. Here he met and married Mary Ann Mitchell on April 8, 1844. They moved to Salt Lake City, and later came back to Nebraska by wagon and purchased 160 acres north of Irvington, Nebraska. They lived on this farm the rest of their lives. He was the son of John and Sarah (Poole) Timperley. He had 5 brothers and sisters--Mary, Sarah, Alice, George and Mary. John and Mary Ann had 16 children--Elizabeth, Clarence Lee, Jane Plant, Frank Hoen, Albert, Alice Marion, Edward Abbott, George, Walter Willis, Phoebe, Mary, Sarah, William, John Poole, Thomas Poole and John. He is buried next to Mary Ann, and sons George and Thomas Poole in Mt. Hope. Nine other children are buried nearby, as are many grandchildren and great-grandchildren.
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paphosdave
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5 Sep 2017 16:39 |
Many thanks, ArgyllGran, I will work on the info you have posted and keep looking. :-)
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15 Sep 2017 18:54 |
I now have one Ernest Edward Timperley dob 11/1884, sailed for New Zealand 04/04/1906 on the SS Oswestry Grange. Arriving at Wellington on 16 /06/1906. He was a clerk at age 22. Any advance on this would be helpful, tia.
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15 Sep 2017 20:29 |
Private House, 111, Wembury Street, North Manchester, Prestwich, Lancashire, England
1901 cenus.
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Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place James Bowcock Head Married Male 30 1871 Corporation Labourer Stretford, Lancashire, England Transcription Charlotte Bowcock Wife Married Female 26 1875 - Sale, Cheshire, England Transcription Dorothy Bowcock Daughter - Female 0 1901 - Blackley, Lancashire, England Transcription Harriet Timperley Sister-In-Law Single Female 25 1876 Fruiterer Assistant Sale, Cheshire, England Transcription Thomas Timperley Brother-In-Law Single Male 19 1882 Shippers Clerk Sale, Cheshire, England Transcription Ernest E Timperley Brother-In-Law - Male 16 1885 Shippers Clerk Sale, Cheshire, England.
1891 census.
Lime Tree Farm, Baguley Road, Sale, Altrincham, Cheshire, England
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Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Ezra Timperley Head Married Male 56 1835 Farmer Lancashire, England Transcription Sarah Timperley Wife Married Female 45 1846 - Derbyshire, England Transcription Samuel F Timperley Son Single Male 27 1864 Farmers Son Assistant Lancashire, England Transcription George H Timperley Son Single Male 23 1868 Farmers Son Assistant Lancashire, England Transcription John W Timperley Son - Male 17 1874 Farmers Son Assistant Cheshire, England Transcription Charlotte Timperley Daughter - Female 16 1875 Household Work Cheshire, England Transcription Harriet Timperley Daughter - Female 15 1876 Household Work Cheshire, England Transcription Charles A Timperley Son - Male 13 1878 Farmers Son Cheshire, England Transcription Annie Timperley Daughter - Female 12 1879 Scholar Cheshire, England Transcription Emily Timperley Daughter - Female 10 1881 Scholar Cheshire, England Transcription Thomas E Timperley Son - Male 9 1882 Scholar Cheshire, England Transcription Ernest E Timperley Son - Male 6 1885 Scholar Cheshire, England
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malyon
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15 Sep 2017 21:57 |
there are a lot of Timperley's going to usa
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15 Sep 2017 22:51 |
Ernest Edward Last name Timperley Birth date 1884 Age at death 32 Registration year 1916 Registration number 1916/1914 Certificate ordering To order, visit https://www.bdmonline.dia.govt.nz/NonHistoricRecords Country New Zealand Record set New Zealand Death Index Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials Collections from Australasia, New Zealand Crown Copyright © 2017 https://bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz
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15 Sep 2017 22:53 |
No image to check who else at that address
First name(s) Ernest Edward Last name Timperley Electoral year 1911 Number 8402 Occupation/status clerk Residence Matai Road Electorate Wellington East Qualification - Country New Zealand Source 1911 Record set New Zealand Electoral Rolls Category Census, land & surveys Subcategory Electoral Rolls Collections from Australasia © Findmypast
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No other results showing in Wellington for Timperley
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Valerie
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20 Sep 2017 01:33 |
The 'National Library of New Zealand' (Auckland) (on-line) has an 'Ask a Librarian' service - they will check their records including electoral rolls (past & present) and newspaper death notices.
Valerie
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paphosdave
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20 Sep 2017 22:18 |
Thank you all for your valiant efforts once more. I'll be back! God Bless. D.
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21 Sep 2017 19:09 |
On the probate records for Wellington High Court in New Zealand, his wife gave written testimony That he died 04/03/1916 and signed her name as 'C Timperley. As far as I can see he went to NZ single and died married so where do I go from here, please?
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ArgyllGran
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21 Sep 2017 22:15 |
Ernest Edward Timperley in the New Zealand, Marriage Index, 1840-1937 Name: Ernest Edward Timperley Gender: Male Marriage Year: 1914 Marriage Place: New Zealand Relation: Bridegroom Folio Number: 1007
Unfortunately there's no image to view, and no mention of his wife's name. Marriage place is somewhat vague, too.
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21 Sep 2017 22:42 |
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Constance Amy Latto in the New Zealand, Marriage Index, 1840-1937 Name: Constance Amy Latto Gender: Female Marriage Year: 1914 Marriage Place: New Zealand Relation: Bride (Wife) Folio Number: 1007
Constance Timperley in the New Zealand, Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981 Name: Constance Timperley (married) Electoral Year: 1914 District: Wellington East Region or Province: Wellington
Address: 35 Matai Road. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
At same address, still listed as married, in 1919.
??? at 4 Hataitai Road, widow:
Constance Amy Timperley in the New Zealand, Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981 Name: Constance Amy Timperley Electoral Year: 1928 District: Wellington East Region or Province: Wellington
Constance Amy Timperley in the New Zealand, Marriage Index, 1840-1937 Name: Constance Amy Timperley Gender: Female Marriage Year: 1929 Marriage Place: New Zealand Spouse: David Norman Wilkinson Relation: Bride (Wife) Folio Number: 8502
Constance Amy Wilkinson in the New Zealand, Death Index, 1848-1966 Name: Constance Amy Wilkinson Death Date: 1960 Registration Place: Wellington, New Zealand Folio Number: 5689
Constance Amy Latto in the New Zealand, Birth Index, 1840-1950 Name: Constance Amy Latto Birth Date: 1892 Registration Place: New Zealand Folio Number: 4934
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21 Sep 2017 22:48 |
Constance Amy Wilkinson in the New Zealand, Cemetery Records, 1800-2007 Name: Constance Amy Wilkinson Birth Date: abt 1893 Death Age: 67 Death Date: 30 Oct 1960 Death Place: Karori, Wellington Burial Place: Wellington, New Zealand Cemetery: Karori
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paphosdave
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22 Sep 2017 11:56 |
Thanks, ArgyllGran. I think the 35, Matai Road sounds right but for her STILL being married in 1919. I am waiting on NZ Library to get back to me, hopefully with a definitive answer. Thanks for all your help, you have added to the tree. God Bless. D.
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paphosdave
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7 Oct 2017 20:35 |
ArgyllGran, update on Ernest E T. NZ Library researcher got back to me with DoD, Marriage to Constance Amy Latto, some info on his activities with YMCA Football and Cricket. Thanks so much for your input. Now having a look at Constance's details. Where she was born, died etc. Even though they were married for such a short time, Any children.? God Bless. D.
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ArgyllGran
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7 Oct 2017 22:01 |
Constance's birth 1892, New Zealand, as posted above.
Died in Karori, Wellington, also posted above.
Perhaps your NZ Library researcher can tell you exactly where in NZ she was born.
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ArgyllGran
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7 Oct 2017 22:17 |
This link doesn't say where she was born, but says her parents were David and Janet Latto.
https://www.geni.com/people/Constance-Latto/6000000018071708110
Apparently her father died in Moora, WA.
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