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I am researching William Henry Niles born 1900 Greenwich. I am looking for information on him and his wife Margaret married 1926 I think. I believe they had at least 3 children
Florence Margaret Niles
Amelia Rose Niles
Mildred Elizabeth Niles
Any help very much appreciated
Annie

Is this greenwich uk as you say Niles family in Canada

yes William emigrated in around 1906

So he was born in the uk

Name: William Henry Niles
Age: 20
Birth Year: abt 1900
Birth Place: Greenwich England
Marriage Date: 29 Apr 1920
Marriage Place: Wentworth, Ontario, Canada
Father: Peter Niles Niles
Mother: Alice Niles
Spouse: Margaret Alice Mellor

1921 Canadian census
Name: William H Niles
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 21
Birth Year: abt 1900
Birth Place: England
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret Niles
Father Birth Place: England
Mother Birth Place: England
Year of Immigration: 1904
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Province or Territory: Ontario
District: Wentworth
District Number: 141
Sub-district: Barton (Township)
Sub-District Number: 9
City, Town or Village: Barton Township
Street or Township: 269 Brittania
Municipality: Barton
Occupation: Welder
Income: 600
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William H Niles 21
Margaret Niles 21
Florence Margaret Niles 7/12

Looks like his birth

WILLIAM HENRY
Last name NILES
Birth year 1900
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District LEWISHAM
County London
Country England
Volume 1D
Page 1269
Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain
© brightsolid online publishing ltd


LEWISHAM REGISTRATION DISTRICT

Registration County : London (1837-1965), Greater London (from 1965).
Created : 1.7.1837.
Sub-districts : Eltham, Lee, Lewisham, Lewisham Park, Lewisham Village, Plumstead, Sydenham.
GRO volumes : V (1837-51), 1d (1852-1946), 5D (1946-74), 14 (1974-92).
Registers currently held at : Lewisham, Greenwich and Bromley.
Table 1A: List of Places in Lewisham Registration District (1837-1965)

All the areas in Lewisham registration district became part of the county of London on 1.4.1889.


Charlton

Kent


Eltham

Kent

Abolished 31.3.1930 to become part of the parish of Borough of Woolwich. See also Table 2, notes (i), (j) and (m).

Kidbrooke

Kent

Lee

Kent

1837

1889

Abolished 1.4.1904 to become part of the parish of Lewisham.


1889

1904

Lewisham

Kent

1837

1889

Abolished 1.4.1965 to become part of the London borough of Lewisham. See also Table 2, notes (c), (d), (e), (f), (g), (h), (k) and (l).

London

1889

1965

Mottingham

Kent


Plumstead

Kent

Greenwich is in the same area

A tree on Ancestry states that his wife Margaret died in 1945 and showing a headstone from Hamilton Ontario.
Her last residence is recorded as
1936 • 228 Weir St.North Hamilton Ontario - per her daughter

A second marriage is listed as
Marriage
1949 • Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Jessie Atkinson (1906–1981)

They aren't sure when William died quoting either 1965 or 1967 in Hamilton

His family on the 1911census. He isn't with them

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
25 Claremont ST, Greenwich, London, England


Peter Niles Head Married Male Labour Engineers 38 1873 West Greenwich Transcription
Alice Niles Wife - Female - 35 1876 - Transcription
Peter Niles Son - Male News Paper Boy 12 1899 - Transcription
David Niles Son - Male - 9 1902 - Transcription
Perce Niles Son - Male - 6 1905 - Transcription
George Niles Son - Male - 5 1906 - Transcription
Elizabeth Niles Daughter - Female - 3 1908 - Transcription
Dick Niles Son - Male - 0 1911 - Transcription

Says married 14 years 6 children born all living but there are six children listed so what about William ???

Florence Margaret is supposed to have died in Hamilton in 1993
Amelia Rose is supposed to have died 1 Mar 1935 • Hamilton, Wentworth, Ontario, Canada, born 12 Dec 1928
Mildred is 'hidden' either because she is still living, or no death has been found.

If it the same peter niles he was single in 1901

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
12, Norman Road, Greenwich, London, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Hammarsley Head Married Male 52 1849 Stevedore Deptford, Kent, England Transcription
Selina Hammarsley Wife Married Female 47 1854 - Plymouth, Devon, England Transcription
Peter Niles Boarder Single Male 27 1874 Labourer On Coal Wharf Greenwich, Kent, England Transcription
Edward Niles Boarder Single Male 21 labourer in oil mills Greenwich Kent

this is definitely the right family thank you . I wondered where I can details of the children s births from. thank you

Peter didn't marry till 1902
PETER
Last name NILES
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1902
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ PETER NILES married one of these people
ELLORA KING, ALICE DAVIS >>>>>>>>
District LEWISHAM
District number -
County London
Country England
Volume 1D
Page 1462
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain
© brightsolid online publishing ltd

Unfortunately for us, Canadian vital records are subject to long closures.

http://www.archives.gov.on.ca/en/tracing/the_records.aspx will tell you what you are allowed to view.

From a tree on ancestry


William Henry Niles
Speirs/Thompson/Seath/Caulfield
Birth: 12 Feb 1900 - London, England
Marriage: 1949 - Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Death: 1967 - Hamilton, Ontario, Canada

William Henry Niles
in the Canada, Soldiers of the First World War, 1914-1918
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Name: William Henry Niles
Birth Date: 29 Jan 1897
Birth Location: Greenwich, England
Relative: Harryman David Chas
Regiment Number: 757392


Birth given by William but he has his actual birth cert stating birth 12.2 .1900

Annie

Look on www.FreeBMD for the births

If you want copies you can order from

www.gro.gov.uk using the GRO ref found on the birth record

Register ,free. Follow the order form and tick the box that asks if the GRO ref is known. Then fill in the ref in the boxes where indicated

Certs cost £9.25,each

1911 Canadian ceneus he is with an uncle which ties with the nok on his army rcord

William H Niles
in the 1911 Census of Canada
Name: William H Niles
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 12
Birth Date: Jan 1899
Birth Place: England
Relation to Head of House: Nephew
Immigration Year: 1907
Race or Tribe: English
Province: Ontario
District: Wentworth
District Number: 135
Sub-district: 52 - Dundas
Sub-District Number: 52
Place of Habitation: Dundas
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
David C Harryman 45
Elizabeth Harryman 46
Elizabeth A Harryman 23
William H Niles 12

One wonders why he went to canada

He was born before his dad married !!!

thank you all so much annie <3

Amelia Rose's death. Died 135 Baron;s Ave., Hamilton, ON.,from encephalitis brought on by measles.

Amelia Rose Niles

in the Ontario, Canada, Deaths, 1869-1938, 1943, and Deaths Overseas, 1939-1947
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Name: Amelia Rose Niles
Gender: Female
Age: 6
Birth Date: abt 1929
Birth Place: Hamilton, Ontario
Death Date: 1 Mar 1935
Death Place: Wentworth, Ontario, Canada
Father: Wm Henry Niles
Mother: Margaret Alice Mellor

Think some of the children werent Niles but Davis as they were born pre the marriage to peter niles

This is alice on the 1939 with several more children

Niles Household (6 People)
4 Churchfields , Greenwich, London, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Alice M Niles 12 May 1876 Householder
Percy L Miles (Niles) 18 Dec 1903 Wharf Labourer Heavy Worker
Rosena M Back (Niles) 13 Apr 1873 Jar Washer
Emily F Wellman 14 Mar 1915 Bottle Washer
Albert H Niles 16 Feb 1919 Coal Porter Heavy Worker
Violet M Birch (Niles) 15 May 1921. Coral making




Births Jun 1913
Niles Rosina M A Davis Greenwich 1d 1973
Births Jun 1915
NILES Emily F Davis Greenwich 1d 1892
Births Dec 1917
Niles Charles H Davis Greenwich 1d 1291
Births Mar 1919
Niles Albert H Davis Greenwich 1d 1242
Births Jun 1921
Niles Violet M Davis Greenwich 1d 1924