Genealogy Chat

Asti ............


Thank you

I enjoy it :-)


One tip .................... use the wild card * when searching on a site that will allow you to do so.

The * replaces one or more letters, but there usually have to be at least 3 letters left as is .................. so

R*n*ld* ------ would get every variation, including the "s" being left off.

I know Ancestry and FindMyPast allow that ................ I don't know which site you use

and familysearch looks for all variants unless you tick the "match all terms exactly" box

but the * does save a lot of time, even it means you have to sift through a listing

You are truly amazing SylvainCanada!!!!

Its all these different spellings that's getting me.

Now just need to find info on William Reynolds' father i would think he was born around 1780??? Could be wrong though as i dont know if he had any children before William.
i will try all the different spellings and see if i get anything in the hull area

??????

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: Thomas Reynolds
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 7 Nov 1869
Baptism Place: Wheldrake,York,England
Father: Joseph Reynolds
Mother: Mary Ann
FHL Film Number: 919051

????????????????

England and Wales Marriage Registration Index

Name Joseph Reynolds
Event Type Marriage
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year 1868
Registration District York
County Yorkshire
Event Place York, Yorkshire, England
Volume 9D
Page 88
Line Number 214

Joseph Reynolds probably married one of the following people
Name Mary Ann Carlyle

??????? possible Joseph in 1871??

1871 Census

Name: Joseph Renolds
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A Renolds
Gender: Male
Where born: Wheldrake, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Wheldrake
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: York
Sub-registration district: Escrick
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 118
Piece: 4754
Folio: 78
Page Number: 23

Joseph Renolds 28 Ag Lab
Mary A Renolds 21 b.ca 1850, York
Thomas Renolds 1 b.ca 1870, Wheldrake

Address:- The Village

I think we have them :-)

?????? Thomas Smith's death ..........

England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991

Name: Thomas Smith
Gender: Male
Age: 45
Birth Date: 1788
Death Place: Wheldrake, York, England
Burial Date: 1 Dec 1833
Burial Place: Wheldrake, York, England
FHL Film Number: 1068418
Reference ID: Pg. 34, # 266

???????

from Yorkshire bmd

Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1849

CADE Joseph SMITH Dinah St Cuthbert, York York SCUTH/1/226


from freebmd .........

Marriages Dec 1849 (>99%)
Cade Joseph York 23 818
Smith Dinah York 23 818

A Public Family tree on ancestry says that Diana married a Joseph Cade

If so, this looks like them in 1851

1851 Census

Name Dniah Cade
Age 19
Estimated Birth Year abt 1832
Relation Wife
Spouse's Name Joseph Cade
Gender Female
Where born Wheldrake, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish York St Cuthbert
County/Island Yorkshire
Country England
Registration district York
Sub-registration district Walmgate
ED, institution, or vessel 3b
Household schedule number 33
Piece 2355
Folio 147
Page number 7

Joseph Cade 21b.ca 1830, Yorkshire, General Labourer
Dniah Cade 19
James Cade 4 Mo

Address:- Layerthorpe

?????

from ancestry

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: Diana Smith
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 31 Mar 1832
Baptism Place: Wheldrake,York,England
Father: Thomas Smith
Mother: Elizabeth
FHL Film Number: 919051

Malyon ................

the Joseph and Frances you posted were born in Saddleworth, which is close to the Lancashire border (near Oldham).

The Joseph and Frances that Asti is looking for were born in Wheldrake near York ...... which is quite a distance from Saddleworth!

In addition, the 1891 Census shows their mother to be called Mary ............ and we're looking for a mother called Elizabeth!

This is the Ancestry version of that 1841 ............ Note the spelling!!

1841 Census

Name: William Renalds
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Wheldrake
Hundred: Ouse and Derwent
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: York
Sub-registration district: Escrick

Piece: 1228
Book: 17
Folio: 11
Page Number: 17

William Renalds 25 Ag Lab
Elizabeth Renalds 35 b.ca 1806, Yorkshire
Frances Renalds 4
William Renalds 3
Joseph Renalds 3 Mo


Interestingly, Thomas and Diana are shown as living in alone in the house next door (indicated by a double line separating Joseph from Thomas) so Ancestry has listed them separately

Name: Thomas Smith
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Wheldrake
Hundred: Ouse and Derwent
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: York
Sub-registration district: Escrick

Piece: 1228
Book: 17
Folio: 11
Page Number: 17

Thomas Smith 10
Diana Smith 9

Asti .....

see my post of 27 Jan 2016 20:56

a Frances Reynolds born in Wheldrake is a servant in York ............. and then I found marriage for a Frances Reynolds, father William taking place in York, posted 27 Jan 2016 21:01


If true, then that answers your question about her.


Was that 1841 record the 1841 Census??

WOW!!
This is mind boggling.
So i have found a document that is dated 1841.
it is rather confusing to explain but i will try my best.

Name William Renolds
Event Type Census
Event Date 1841
Event Place Wheldrake, Yorkshire,Yorkshire East Riding, England
Residence Note Rectory House
Gender Male
Age 25-29
Age (Original) 25
Birth Year (Estimated) 1812-1816
Birthplace Yorkshire
Registration District York
Book Number 17
Parish Wheldrake
County Yorkshire,Yorkshire East Riding
Page Number 17
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 1228/11
Affiliate Record Type Household
Household

Name Gender Age Birthplace
William Renolds M 25-29 Yorkshire
Elizabeth Renolds F 35-39 Yorkshire
Frances Renolds F 4 Yorkshire
William Renolds M 3 Yorkshire
Joseph Renolds M 3 months Yorkshire
Thomas Smith M 10 Yorkshire
Diana Smith F 9 Yorkshire

So the age for William is about right and i have seen about 4/5 different documents with his birthdate listed differently, but they are him.
The age range for Elizabeth is bang on.
Frances has been mentioned by you all but she does not show up in the 1951 census and i cannot find a death certificate for her. Williams age is wrong as he was born around 1940. Josephs age could possibly be right as i have him down as born in 1841-1842.
Thomas's age is right as he was born around 1830
Diana is a new one to me also. she doesnt appear on the 1851 census with the family and again i cannot find a death certificate I checked her out and elizabeth is her mother and thomas smith her father. Thomas smith is also Thomas's father.
It just seems like to much of a coincidence. Same location, mother and fathers age is right, one of the children ages is right and now 2 new children.
What do you think??

Thank you,
The joseph i am looking for has 2 sisters called elizabeth and amelia.
He seems to have vanished somewhere

this them in 1871

COPY PRINT SOURCE BOX SHARE
Attach to Family Tree
Joseph Reynolds
England and Wales Census, 1871
Name Joseph Reynolds
Event Type Census
Event Date 1871
Event Place Saddleworth, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Enumeration District 4
Gender Male
Age 29
Marital Status Unmarried
Occupation Manager
Relationship to Head of Household Nephew
Birth Year (Estimated) 1842
Birthplace Saddleworth, Yorkshire
Entry Number 4
Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/4336/0135
HOUSEHOLD

ROLE

GENDER

AGE

BIRTHPLACE

John Reynolds Head M 68 Saddleworth, Yorkshire
Thomas Reynolds Brother M 53 Saddleworth, Yorkshire
Betty Reynolds Sister F 66 Saddleworth, Yorkshire
Joseph Reynolds Nephew M 29 Saddleworth, Yorkshire
Frances Reynolds Niece F 28 Saddleworth, Yorkshire
Ann Lees Niece F 7 Saddleworth, Yorkshire

is this joseph with sister frances

Joseph Reynolds
England and Wales Census, 1891
Name Joseph Reynolds
Event Type Census
Event Date 1891
County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (West Riding)
Parish Saddleworth
Ecclesiastical Parish ST CHADS
Registration District Saddleworth
Residence Note Court Street
Gender Male
Age 49
Marital Status Single
Occupation Living On Own Means
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1842
Birthplace Yorkshire, England
Page Number 12
Registration Number RG12
Piece/Folio 3551/ 65
HOUSEHOLD

ROLE

GENDER

AGE

BIRTHPLACE

Joseph Reynolds Head M 49 Yorkshire, England
Frances Reynolds Sister F 48 Yorkshire, England
Mary Gartside Mother F 75 Yorkshire, England
Margaret M Bradbery Visitor F 19 Yorkshire, England

this comes up under Renolds, it has been a spelling error, I know this is correct as Williams daughter Amelia married James Kidd
I will now start searching different spellings of Reynolds

Name William Renolds
Event Type Census
Event Date 1871
Event Place Wheldrake, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Enumeration District 6
Gender Male
Age 59
Marital Status Married
Occupation Agricultural Labourer
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1812
Birthplace Hull, Yorkshire

Im Home,
Yes sorry i meant the 1851 census.
I found the marriage of Elizabeth and William in 1838 giving Elizabeths maiden name as Hobson.
I am unsure if francis is any relation. I did find a marriage for 1820 of Ann Reynolds in Wheldrake. I am thinking they may be some relation and this is why william moved from Hull to wheldrake??
Wheldrake is a small villiage with around 2000 residents now so i presume it was dratically smaller in the 1800's.
I will check out the Rennolds spelling as Reynolds is bringing up no results at all in the parish records. I will update very soon

Thank you everyone!!
I am just out on the school run at the moment (Yorkshire girl living in Canada)
I will review these when I get home to my laptop as the small phone screen makes it even more mind boggling lol.
Also can anyone do a search on Joseph Reynolds born 1842 I believe. He is on the 1851 census then disappears. It might just be me staring at a computer screen so long my eyes are playing tricks on me and my mind isn't engaging.
Thanks a bunch you are all awesome ??