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:-D.Lavender,,,,,,,too right,

job description Violinist certainly doesnt make good player with gardners and stonemasons hands,,,,,,perhaps it was just a fiddling job down the local. ;-) :-D.

Gardener in 1861, Violinist in 1871 and Stone Breaker in 1881 and otherwise consistently born around 1836/7 ????

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Carnaan, Bowmore, Argyllshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
David Crawford Head Unmarried Male 45 1836 Stone Breaker Bowmore, Argyllshire, Scotland
John Crawford Brother Unmarried Male 34 1847 Farm Labourer Argyllshire, Scotland
Martha Crawford Sister Unmarried Female 26 1855 Farm Servant Argyllshire, Scotland
Sarah Crawford Niece Unmarried Female 15 1866 Scholar Argyllshire, Scotland
William Beaton Nephew Unmarried Male 10 1871 Scholar Argyllshire, Scotland
Catherine McMillan Niece Unmarried Female 6 1875 Scholar Argyllshire, Scotland

Maybe many of our roots lie in the Sack, Kay! :-D :-D :-D

Thanks to all who replied. I've now seen the original and Kense was correct that 'Land' was David - a Violinist. Also, Kay was correct that 'Sack' was Sarah. I don't know who transcribed this but all these entries looked perfectly clear.

Hugh.

and Sack for Sarah,,,,,,, :-D :-D.

Without seeing the original it seems that Land is a poor transcription of David
and Urchnest of Violinest..

Martha Campbell
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 3 Mar 1835
Marriage Place: Killarrow,Argyll,Scotland
Spouse: John Crawford
FHL Film Number: 1041078

The original 1871 image on SP has only 4 children of Martha a Gardners Widow and 1 grandchild Sarah age 4.

SP search of all census does not show any person named Land Crawford.neither does it show in Baptisms.

could it be Laird, not Land

I think 'Land' must have been a mistranscription!


Name:James Crawford

Gender:Male
Birth Date:14 Feb 1843

Baptism Date:18 Feb 1843
Baptism Place: Killarrow, Argyll, Scotland

Father:John Crawford

Mother:Martha Campbell

FHL Film Number:1041078
Reference ID:2:15CN16N

OPR's for family 1835 - 1854 after which formal registration began

1 18/10/1850 CRAWFORD ELISABETH JOHN CRAWFORD/MARTHA CAMPBELL FR440 (FR440) F BOWMORE OR KILARROW /ARGYLL 536/00 0020 0280
2 22/12/1852 CRAWFORD ISABELLA JOHN CRAWFORD/MARTHA CAMPBELL FR444 (FR444) F BOWMORE OR KILARROW /ARGYLL 536/00 0020 0289
3 18/02/1843 CRAWFORD JAMES JOHN CRAWFORD/MARTHA CAMPBELL FR421 (FR421) M BOWMORE OR KILARROW /ARGYLL 536/00 0020 0243
4 10/09/1847 CRAWFORD JOHN JOHN CRAWFORD/MARTHA CAMPBELL FR433 (FR433) M BOWMORE OR KILARROW /ARGYLL 536/00 0020 0266
5 24/11/1848 CRAWFORD MARGARET JOHN CRAWFORD/MARTHA CAMPBELL FR436 (FR436) F BOWMORE OR KILARROW /ARGYLL 536/00 0020 0272
6 07/05/1841 CRAWFORD MARY JOHN CRAWFORD/MARTHA CAMPBELL FR415 (FR415) F BOWMORE OR KILARROW /ARGYLL 536/00 0020 0230
7 03/05/1839 CRAWFORD ROBERT JOHN CRAWFORD/MARTHA CAMPBELL FR407 (FR407) M BOWMORE OR KILARROW /ARGYLL 536/00 0020 0214

?? Family in 1861 -

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Bridgend, Kilarrow, Kilarrow or Bowmore, Argyllshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Crawford - Married Male 48 1813 Master Gardener Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Martha Crawford - Married Female 42 1819 - Argyllshire, Scotland
David Crawford - Unmarried Male 24 1837 Gardener Argyllshire, Scotland
Mary Crawford - Unmarried Female 18 1843 General Serv Argyllshire, Scotland
John Crawford - - Male 14 1847 Scholar Argyllshire, Scotland
Margaret Crawford - - Female 12 1849 Scholar Argyllshire, Scotland
Betsy Crawford - - Female 10 1851 Scholar Argyllshire, Scotland
Isabella Crawford - - Female 8 1853 Scholar Argyllshire, Scotland
Martha Crawford - - Female 6 1855 Scholar Argyllshire, Scotland
Sarah Crawford - - Female 4 1857 - Argyllshire, Scotland
Catherine Crawford - - Female 2 1859 - Argyllshire, Scotland

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And 1851

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
New Houses Islay House Farm, Kilarrow, Islay, Argyllshire, Scotland

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Print transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Crawford Head Married Male 36 1815 Gardner Renfrewshire, Scotland
Matty Crawford Wife Married Female 32 1819 - Argyllshire, Scotland
David Crawford Son Unmarried Male 15 1836 Scholar Argyllshire, Scotland
Ellen Crawford Daughter Unmarried Female 13 1838 Scholar Argyllshire, Scotland
Mary Crawford Daughter Unmarried Female 9 1842 - Argyllshire, Scotland
James Crawford Son Unmarried Male 7 1844 - Argyllshire, Scotland
John Crawford Son Unmarried Male 5 1846 - Argyllshire, Scotland
Margaret Crawford Daughter Unmarried Female 3 1848 - Argyllshire, Scotland
Betzy Crawford Daughter Unmarried Female 0 1851 - Argyllshire, Scotland

Oh my.!

Martha>> 52>>>.

>>>DAVID 30 Uwed---Violinist.<<<
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John 23 Unwed --Forresters Lab.

Martha 16 dau. Unwed --.

Catherine 11 dau . Unwed Scholar.

SARAH 4 Granddau.

From the original clear to read 1871 census image,

No such name appears in any Scotland census as Land Crawford.






:-D :-D

You will need Scotlands People website to view the original of the census - there are only transcriptions on FMP, Ancestry etc You may be able to see what the original says and maybe what a poor transcription it is ??

SP is a Pay to view site - £7 will buy you 30 credits - 5 credits to look at the origianl


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Name: Land Crawford
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relationship: Son
Mother's name: Martha Crawford
Gender: Male
Where born: Kilarrow, Argyllshire
Registration Number: 536
Registration district: Bowmore
Civil Parish: Kilarrow
County: Argyll
Address: Carnain
Occupation: Urchnest
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 7
LINE: 9
Roll: CSSCT1871_93
Household Members:
Name Age
Martha Crawford 57
Land Crawford 30
John Crawford 23
Martha Crawford 11
Catherine Crawford 11
Sack Crawford 4

EDIT - Found it - FMPversion
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Carnain, Kilarrow, Bowmore, Argyllshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Martha Crawford Head Widow Female 52 1819 Gardener's Widow Argyllshire, Scotland
David Crawford Son Unmarried Male 30 1841 Violinist Argyllshire, Scotland
John Crawford Son Unmarried Male 23 1848 Forrester Lab Argyllshire, Scotland
Martha Crawford Daughter Unmarried Female 16 1855 None Argyllshire, Scotland
Catherine Crawford Daughter - Female 11 1860 Scholar Argyllshire, Scotland
Sarah Crawford Grand Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Argyllshire, Scotland

The 1871 Census entry for the curiously-named Land Crawford of Islay shows his occupation as a Urchnest. The Oxford English Dictionary has nothing for this. Anyone got a clue what this means?