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Yes, thank you very much, Potty :-)

Mary Ann House's baptism:


Name:Mary Ann Honse
Baptism Date:28 Nov 1832
Baptism Place:Bridport, Dorset, England
Father:John Honse - Comber
Mother:Mary Honse

A tree on Ancestry has her parents as John House and Mary Ackerman.

Big thank you to Eringobragh. Having been given so much help when I've been incredibly dim, I have been able to add so much to my family tree during the last few days.

So sorry to have put so much onto you, but am extremely grateful for all your kindness, patience and time.

Many thanks to Eringobragh for many hours spent researching and much to add to my tree.

Bristol Parish Registers

Richard Bees (father James Bees)
marr Bristol St Philip and St Jacob 2 Feb 1863
he was Widowed
Marr Mary House nee Ackerman

Have also other areas to follow up


Eventually I shall order searches on these possible Marriages. :-) :-) :-)

I have found another marriage for a Mary Ann House

Thomas Neale b 1854 same parish of St. Philip and St. Jacob, Bristol

She would have been 20 years.

There may be others with the same name, I haven't explored it yet.


Half of the children from the Wood(h)all marriage ended up belonging to her, born before her marriage to William Benjamin Ashton Wood(h)all.

Yes, thank you safc, I had picked up on that one you kindly posted earlier. I'm not questioning the marriage between Mary Ann House to William Fletcher, have been just sorting out the previous marriages to Mary Ann.

It's interesting for me to note family connection to Manchester, it originates from the Wood(h)all family.

It's taking me a while so haven't yet had time to look at the first marriage of William Fletcher which am curious about. It is that which has me wondering about the mother of Therese and Amy Fletcher. If as I think their mother has the surname Bees, I may have luck in the future.

Many thanks for the kind input which is much appreciated.

Gloucestershire, Bristol Marriage Index 1644-1939 Transcription
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First name(s) William
Last name Fletcher
Sex Male
Marital status Widowed
Marriage year 1880
Marriage date 17 May 1880
Marriage place Bristol, St Paul, Portland Square, Gloucestershire, England
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Fletcher
Spouse's first name(s) Mary Ann
Spouse's last name Woodall
Spouse's sex Female
Spouse marital status Widowed
Spouse's father's first name(s) John
Spouse's father's last name House
Place Bristol, St Paul, Portland Square
County Gloucestershire
Country England
Record set Gloucestershire, Bristol Marriage Index 1644-1939
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

I have seen that in 1881 Census

Mary A Woodall b 1834 is Head

she is there with the Woodall stepchildren, and also

Mary Bees (Visitor)


William Fletcher stating Richard Bees and Mary Bees are his father-in-law and mother-in-law is correct

Hopefully I'm right in my workings that William Fletcher b 1831 Dublin, Ireland is married to Female Bees and may be the mother of Therese and Amy Fletcher b London

Edit* I still don't think that I've got that right. Mary Bees b 1805 Bridport which is the same place as Mary Ann House.

It seems much more likely that the Mary Bees connection is to Mary Ann House than to her eventual husband William Fletcher b 1831 Dublin, Ireland, whose children Therese and Amy Fletcher are born in London.

I'm only writing as having written above I didn't want anybody who may have been kind or interested to puzzle, not let them know where I was at.

I have yet to return to William Fletcher b 1831 Dublin Ireland..

I am looking at Census 1881 William Fletcher b 1831 Silver Plater

as Head of Household he states Richard Bees b 1796 is his Father in Law and

Mary Bees b Bridport his Mother in Law.

I am wondering whether they may even be his wife's in laws if she had also married between the ages of 17 yrs and 35 yrs? (see Mary Ann House b 1834 Bridport). I have detailed what I have found so far.

Otherwise, William Fletcher b 1831 Dublin, Ireland may as stated have been married to a wife with the surname Bees?

Mary Ann House b 1834 Bridport

Census 1841 Residence Bristol age 7 yrs

Census 1851 Residence Bristol age 17 yrs
Relation to Head, Dau

1869 Marriage to William Benjamin Ashton Wood(h)all
age 35 yrs Clifton, Bristol

Census 1871 Residence
age 37 yrs Bristol
Head House

1880 Marriage to William Fletcher
age 46 Bristol

Census 1881 Residence Bristol
Relation to Head, Wife, Marr


Have looked for marriages between William Fletcher b 1831 Bristol (His two children, Therese and Amy were born in London) but have yet to find one. Maybe their mother is also called Therese?

Also looked for marriage between Mary Ann House and ? Bees but can't see one either.

Any thoughts gratefully received, thank you. I may not be around this evening. :-)

Thank you so much, safc :-D

I hadn't yet found that one, have added to my tree. New stepmother!

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Tower Hill, St Peter, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Mary A Woodall Head - Female 38 1833 - Dorset, England
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Alfred Woodall Son - Male 11 1860 - Lancashire, England
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Mary A Woodall Daughter - Female 6 1865 - Gloucestershire, England
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Milnder Woodall Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Gloucestershire, England
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Mary Bees Visitor - Female 66 1805 - Dorset, England

Many thanks, am able to rearrange my tree with Mary Ann Bees not being the natural mother of the Woodall children.

Will return to William Fletcher 1831 Dublin once I have got my head round these marriages. :-)

I have the marriage between William Fletcher 1831 and Therese 1866, it happened in 1888 Bristol :-)

Edit* No I don't! That is the wedding between William Webber and Therese lol

I'm not sure what to make of the Census name

Mary Ann House Woodall?


edit* yes, I've found the family search really helpful understanding the two marriages on both sides.

Thank you, all.

I was aware that it was a second marriage between William Fletcher 1831 and Mary Ann Bees 1834.

I wasn't aware of a previous marriage for William Fletcher 1831?

I had seen the above entries but have not found either marriage certificates between William Fletcher 1831 and Mary Ann Bees 1834 nor

Mary Ann Bees and William Benjamin Ashton Wood(h)all (I found his name on his children's baptism indexes.

The children are -

Alfred Woodall 1860

Mary Ann Tracey Woodall 1865

Melinda Woodall (I forget!)

and

Therese Fletcher 1866 - 1919

Amy Fletcher 1868

A mere slip of the finger, Jacqueline! :-D

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
New Canal Street Court House, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Harriss Head - Male 35 1836 - Worcestershire, England
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Mary Ann Harriss Wife - Female 45 1826 - Staffordshire, England
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William Fletcher Visitor - Male 40 1831 - Ireland
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Theresa Fletcher Visitor - Female 6 1865 - Middlesex, England
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Amy Fletcher Visitor - Female 3 1868 - Middlesex, England

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
15, Lower Castle Street, Bristol Ss Philip and Jacob (In), Bristol, Gloucestershire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Fletcher Head Married Male 50 1831 Silver Plater (Wh Mat) Ireland
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Mary A Fletcher Wife Married Female 47 1834 Silver Plater (Wh Mat) Bridport, Dorset, England
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Mary Woodhall Step Daughter Single Female 16 1865 Shop Keeper Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
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Malinda Woodhall Step Daughter Single Female 14 1867 Apprentice Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
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Amy Fletcher Daughter Single Female 12 1869 Scholar Middlesex, England
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Richard Bees Father Law Married Male 85 1796 Flax Dresser Keynsham, Gloucestershire, England
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Mary Bees Mother In Law Married Female 72 1809 - Bridport, Dorset, England
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William Sage Lodger Single Male 25 1856 Quay Labourer Bristol, Gloucestershire, England

Is And*stry actually Ancestry website?

Name: William Fletcher
Birth Date: 1831
Birthplace:
Age: 49
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann House Woodall
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 17 May 1880
Event Place: St. Paul'S, Bristol, Gloucester, England
Father's Name: John Fletcher
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: V00039-4
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1596647
Reference ID: yr 1877-1907 p 188



Citing this Record:
"England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NFTY-35M : accessed 10 February 2015), William Fletcher and Mary Ann House Woodall, 17 May 1880; citing St. Paul'S, Bristol, Gloucester, England, reference yr 1877-1907 p 188; FHL microfilm 1,596,647.