Genealogy Chat

For William Smith, you absolutely have to purchase the known marriage certificate, which will give you his age and name his father - you then stand a chance of finding him on the 1911 census, and thus learning where he and his family wee born.

Thank you guys . it would make sense for Raymond to be her dad as she named 1 of her sons the same name. This is all new to me how do l find out more about her husband William

Thank you Mary.

So that confirms the birth year, if the tree is accurate

A tree on ancestry has Raymond as her dad.

Maryb

The births I added from GlosBMD as shown on the GRO index.

Births Dec 1886 (>99%)
MUSTOE Minnie Louise Tewkesbury 6a 429

Births Jun 1900 (>99%)
Mustoe Minnie Louisa Cheltenham 6a 444

Only ONE of them Is LouisA, and she is likely to be the one who died in 1983

A Berkshire death, but the DOB doesn't tally with either your date or the birth records, plus, the second name isn't LouisA

First name(s) MINNIE LOUISE
Last name SMITH
Gender Female
Birth day 15
Birth month 12
Birth year 1902
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 2001
District WOKINGHAM
District number 3231
Register number WOK6A
Entry number 232
Date of registration mm/yy 1001
County Berkshire
Country England

This COULD be the one on the census etc, but only the death cert will confirm maiden name and birthplace

First name(s) MINNIE LOUISA
Last name SMITH
Gender Female
Birth day 10
Birth month 5
Birth year 1900
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1983
District NORTH EAST HANTS
County Hampshire
Volume 20
Page 0418

For facts about both of them , you really do need a copy of the 1922 marriage cert

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Buckle Wood Bindlip Gloucester, Brimpsfield, Gloucestershire, England

Print transcription View image Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Raymond Edward Mustoe Head Married Male 55 1856 Gloucester Tiddington Cowman On Farm Transcription
Charlotte Ada Mustoe Wife Married Female 45 1866 Gloucester Oukridge Cowman On Farm Transcription
Elsie Winnifred Mustoe Daughter Single Female 16 1895 Gloucester Cowley General Servant Domestic Transcription
Annie Sophia Mustoe Daughter - Female 13 1898 Worcester Langton - Transcription
Minnie Lousia Mustoe Daughter - Female 10 1901 Gloucester Shardington At School Transcription
Harry Charles Mustoe Son - Male 8 1903 Glos Shardington At School Transcription
Albert Frederick Mustoe Son - Male 6 1905 Glos Shardington At School Transcription
Walter Morris Mustoe Son - Male 4 1907 Glos Shardington - Transcription
Mercy Lillian Mustoe Daughter - Female 3 1908 Glos Shardington - Transcription
Wilfred Rodger Mustoe Son - Male 1 1910 Glos Shardington - Transcription
Census details

Are you sure about Minnie's year of birth?

Also, her given name was Minnie - check the marriage record

There is no record of one in 1892

MUSTOE Minnie L MUSTOE MUSTOE ROBINS 1886 Cheltenham Tewkesbury, Tewkesbury 26 96

MUSTOE Minnie L MUSTOE MUSTOE GARDINER 1900 Cheltenham Cheltenham, Charlton Kings 1A 474

I found these william Thomas's born Gloucestershire.... If of course he was born there

SMITH William Thomas SMITH SMITH MITCHELL 1885 Cirencester Tetbury, Tetbury 13 420
SMITH William Thomas SMITH SMITH COMPTON 1854 Cirencester Northleach, Bibury 2 106
SMITH William Thomas SMITH SMITH MITCHELL 1884 Gloucester Gloucester, Kingsholm 19 478
SMITH William Thomas SMITH SMITH BIZSLEY 1886 Cirencester Cirencester, Fairford 19 378
SMITH William Thomas SMITH SMITH DENLEY 1877 Cirencester Northleach, Chedworth 10 166
SMITH William Thomas SMITH SMITH PETTIFORD 1879 Cirencester Northleach, Bibury 10 438
SMITH William Thomas SMITH SMITH LANE 1874 Forest of Dean Chepstow, Lydney 14 480
SMITH William Thomas SMITH SMITH PERKINS 1895 Gloucester Gloucester, Frampton 16 161
SMITH William Thomas SMITH SMITH HOWELL 1872 Stroud Stroud, Horsley 12 130
SMITH William Thomas SMITH SMITH MILES 1882 Cirencester Northleach, Bibury 11 292
SMITH William Thomas SMITH SMITH WORKMAN 1913 Stroud Stroud, Horsley 21 362
SMITH William Thomas SMITH SMITH SOUL 1880 Stroud Stroud, Stroud 27 82
SMITH William Thomas SMITH SMITH GRIFFIN 1873 Stroud Dursley, Uley 6 325
SMITH William Thomas SMITH SMITH HOBBS 1857 Stroud Dursley, Wotton-under-Edge 8 371
SMITH William Thomas SMITH SMITH CARPENTER 1908 Cirencester Cirencester, Fairford 24 440
SMITH William Thomas SMITH SMITH MILES 1884 Cirencester Northleach, Chedworth 12 149
SMITH William Thomas SMITH SMITH NIBLETT 1846 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 7 14
SMITH William Thomas SMITH SMITH HUNT 1882 Stroud Stroud, Painswi

The full names from Gloucestershire bmd


SMITH William Thomas MUSTOE Minnie Louisa Cirencester Cirencester Register Office 1922

Marriages Mar 1922 (>99%)
MUSTOE Minnie L Smith Cirencester 6a 562
Smith William T Mustoe Cirencester 6a 562

Certificates are ordered from here and cost £9.25 each

http://www.gro.gov.uk/GRO/content/certificates/default.asp

Welcome to the boards Sarah

If you are trying to find him before the marriage, you really need the certificate to find out how old he was and who he named as his father

I would really appreciate if anyone can help me out of this dead end , searching for him isn't easy due to the name . l know he married my great gran in 1922 in Cirencester and her name was Louisa mustoe ,but known as Minnie. She was born in 1892 they went on to have many children morris, Raymond, Stanley my grandad (1926),vera(1930),Winifred(1933),twins Betty and beryl (1935) and Margaret 1936 . they started out in Gloucestershire but then settled in Berkshire . :-(