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KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 9 Sep 2012 09:39

Even if he was born in the workhouse it doesn't mean that his mother was an inmate there. My grandfather was born in Southwark workhouse but his parents lived just round the corner. The workhouse infirmary was used very much like a maternity hospital for those who couldn't afford to call out a doctor.

If you could find out whether the birth registers for the workhouse have survived (although they may not have) then his birth would be recorded there as well as in the GRO birth index if indeed he was born in the workhouse.

ED = Enumeration District.

Kath. x

Gloria

Gloria Report 9 Sep 2012 08:24

Kathleen information I've just read. A Union workhouse was built on Quarella Road, Bridgend, in 1838, and an infirmary was added later. Cottage homes for children were opened in 1879, also in Bridgend. Outdoor relief was administered by local relieving officers, each responsible for a relief district.
I'm more and more thinking my uncle was born in a workhouse, if this is correct its sad to think she had a family living not far away in Maesteg.

Gloria

Gloria Report 9 Sep 2012 07:31

mgnv what does ED mean please? so do you think my uncle was born in the work house I'm intrigued by it all and must try and find this out.

I appreciatete everyones help.

mgnv

mgnv Report 9 Sep 2012 02:59

On 2/4/1911 (census night) Thomas Davies was Master of the Bridgend & Cowbridge Union Workhouse. (image 761 of 784)
As I read it, the workhouse had 155 regular inmates, plus 23 tramps, plus 75 people in the infirmary for a total of 253 (image 765 of 784)
There's also 11 employees on-site (image 773 of 784) followed by the tramps.
The actual names begin on image 766 and continue until the next institution starts (some sort of school).
On a technical note, the workhouse was ED 25 & the school ED26. They shared the same piece # RG14/32593.
Every other time I've looked at a piece # with multiple EDs, they've been institutions of some kind.
Exploiting this, I search the catalogue at:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/default.asp?j=1
for Bridgend in 1911 thru 1911 with dept code = RG and get just one hit with multiple EDs:

RG 14/32593 Registration Sub-District: Bridgend Civil Parish, Township or Place: Bridgend RD 591 RS 4 ED 25, 26

I actually searched for no name in piece # 32593 at Ancestry (1911 is free right now, and the image counts are only relevant to Ancestry)

For those who are unused to searching this way, this guy is unique in Wales.
Thomas Bamfield abt 1841 Twickenham, Middlesex, England Inmate Bridgend, Glamorgan
He appears on image 771

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 9 Sep 2012 00:13

Sometimes you get 1,2,3 on one side, 1a, 2a, 3a on other.

Quarella Road is quite a long road in centre of Bridgend down the side of Tesco going north. Think Quarella is an English corruption of Chwarelau (quarries), so probably road to the quarries. Sounds like the address was down the Tesco (town) end of the road.

I noted an elderly Thomas DAVIES boarding in the Star Inn in Bridgend in C1911. Does anyone know where Star was situated ( not Star Inn in Treoes, think this one was in the centre of town).

Gloria

Gloria Report 8 Sep 2012 23:10

Thanks Kathleen I'll have another google.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 8 Sep 2012 23:04

In the 1891 census the Bridgend Workhouse is listed and then after that 3 houses in Union Road and then Quarella Road is listed so I don't think the workhouse was actually in Quarella Road although it was very close to it.

Kath. x

Gloria

Gloria Report 8 Sep 2012 22:53

Looking on Google the work house looks like cottage homes do you think thats why the numbers are 1a etc.


Gloria.

Janice

Janice Report 8 Sep 2012 22:51

Unless it was at the end of the road before the houses started.

I have been looking but can't find a number for the workhouse. I'm tempted to go with it actually as when I was googling I got hits for people's families where someone had died at 1a Quarella Road. Bit of a coincidence I thought!

Gloria

Gloria Report 8 Sep 2012 22:39

I've just had a look on Google and there was a workhouse on Quarella road but how can I find a number ?.

Gloria

mgnv

mgnv Report 8 Sep 2012 22:36

I'm inclined to discount the workhouse due to the 1a addy - I can't see a workhouse being subdivided so the workhouse was upstairs and something else was downstairs @ # 1.

EDIT Well, I got that wrong - see my later post.

Gloria

Gloria Report 8 Sep 2012 22:27

AWW Gwyn How can I find this out please.

Gloria

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 8 Sep 2012 22:25

I wonder if it was the address for the workhouse?
That was in Quarella Road, I believe.

Such births were often registered with a street address rather than put the word workhouse for all to see in the future.

Gwyn

Gloria

Gloria Report 8 Sep 2012 22:11

Thank you Andysmum and Mgnv I would never have tought that was a Q. thanks for your help.

Gloria

Gloria Report 8 Sep 2012 22:05

No date of birth for Thomas Davies no qualification on the certificate I have Dinah was living at 1a Quarella road. she gave birth to a boy no Fathers name just informant Thomas Davies Occupier 1a Quarella road Bridgend.
Both had same address.
Gloria.

Janice

Janice Report 8 Sep 2012 22:05

There is a Quarella Road in Bridgend so I don't think that's in doubt any more.

No 1 Quarella Road has a Burrett or Burnett family living there and it doesn't seem to be subdivided.

William and Jane are head and wife

Alfred and Minnie are son and dau in law

Baby Stephen Farrant Burnett
Visitor (child age 11) Lillie Chevers

mgnv

mgnv Report 8 Sep 2012 22:04

People used to write a Q like a 2 - I happen to have a Quebec census open:
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1871/pdf/4395442_00078.pdf

Read the header Province de 2uebec - obviously most people were born in Q=Quebec - check col 11 - their country or province of birth.

Andysmum

Andysmum Report 8 Sep 2012 21:56

In Script, as opposed to Printing, a capital Q looks like a 2 with a looped bottom line.

Janice

Janice Report 8 Sep 2012 21:54

Do you have a date of birth for him? The Thomas Davies I've found so far don't live in Quarella Road.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 8 Sep 2012 21:52

What does Thomas Davies give as his qualification for registering the birth?

Gwyn