Genealogy Chat

Hello. Am looking for some help researching the above please.

Ada F Bryantt born 1901 in Cork, I know who her parents were.
Ada marries Vernon Cecil Carroll in Paddington, London in 1931. I think I've found a death for Vernon, 1995 in Hampshire, not 100% sure its him though. I cannot find a death for Ada. I believe most of their married life they lived in Ruislip though. Also I wonder if anyone could find a child from their marriage please. I have been informed that they had a son who was an airline pilot. I have no idea either who Vernon's parents were and if he had any other siblings. I work during the week so not at my computer until the evening time albeit I am around on and off this evening.

Kind regards

Kathryn

Kind regards

Have you looked on Freebmd for possible children?

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Jan

Have you checked FreeBMD here:

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

For Carroll births with mother's maiden name Bryant.
There's one 1932 Brentford and one 1947 Luton.

There's also a birth for Vernon Cecil Carroll 1908 Hendon.

Must be him surely, with that name!

Births Mar 1908 (>99%)
Carroll Vernon Cecil Hendon 3a 333

Name: Vernon Cecil Carroll
Birth Date: 8 Jan 1908
Date of Registration: Jan 1995
Age at Death: 87
Registration district: Alton
Inferred County: Hampshire
Register Number: 20C
District and Subdistrict: 4891
Entry number: 69

1911 mis-transcribed:


1911 England Census about

Name: Kinson Cecil Carroll
Age in 1911: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1908
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Willesden, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Wealdstone
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: 46 Masons Avenue, Wealdstone, Middlesex
Registration district: Hendon

Henry Jos Carroll 36 Birth Place: Kennington, London, England Occupation: Packer Photographic
Annie Eliza Carroll 35
Henry Geo Carroll 6
Adrian Maurice Carroll 4
Kinson Cecil Carroll 3
Annie Mabel Carroll 1

The death that you found matches the birth that I found:

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
about Vernon Cecil Carroll Name: Vernon Cecil Carroll
Birth Date: 8 Jan 1908
Date of Registration: Jan 1995
Age at Death: 87
Registration district: Alton
Inferred County: Hampshire
Register Number: 20C
District and Subdistrict: 4891
Entry number: 69

Sorry, Jan, I'm repeating what you already said.

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1847-1965
Name: Vernon Cecil Carroll
Electoral Year: 1937
Parliamentary Division: Acton
County or Borough: Ealing

Living 53 Maldon Road with Ada Francis.

Kathryn - could you tell us who Ada Francis' parents were? If we can find her birth date it might help when searching for a death.

Hi all, my you have been busy, I've only been away from my comp for a while. Thank you all so much.

Ada,( I never knew what the F stood for before) her parents were George Richard Bryant born in Kent but went to Ireland and married Ada's mum Helena Ellen Bryant in 1908 in Cork. I have the births of Ada's siblings but not hers only that she was born in 1909. I do know she was born in Cork though. I've never had much luck searching in Ireland, so many people have helped me though, bless. I'm sure before I was notified by email if I had a message, good job I came and checked just now.

Kind regards

Kathryn

Hi again, just thought I'd mention that Ada had a twin, Kathleen, who died not long after she was born ie a matter of days or so.

Kind regards

Kathryn

Kathryn - did you know Ada also had a little brother?

1911 Irish census:

Residents of a house 6 in Suttons Buildings (Cork No. 4 Urban (part of), Cork)

Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living
Bryant George 24 Male Head of Family R Catholic Chaltam Bank Porter Read and write English Married - - - -
Bryant Helena 26 Female Wife R Catholic Co Cork - Read and write English Married - 4 2 2
Bryant Ada 2 Female Daughter R Catholic Cork City - Cannot read - Single - - - -
Bryant James Male Son R Catholic Cork City - Cannot read - Single -

Link http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Cork_No__4_Urban__part_of_/Suttons_Buildings/389246/

The 4 2 2 on the line for Helena means married 4 years, 2 children born alive and still living. If Ada's twin was stillborn then I guess she may not have been counted, although you do say she lived a few days.

Wonder if this is a mis-spelling?

Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958
Name: Eda Bryant
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1909
Registration district: Cork
Birth Country: Ireland
Volume: 5
Page: 116
FHL Film Number: 101072

Hiya Marie, sorry, only just come back to the computer, and as above, I am not being notified by email that there are messages. Yes you've found Ada, that is of course a mis-spell of her name, I know she was born in 1909. Thank you so much for the information. I suppose we will not know her actual birth date so as to find out her death? Am off to bed shortly as I have to be up really early for work but I will check on GR tomorrow evening when I get home. Thanks once again for your time and help it is much appreciated.

Kind regards


Kathryn

????

A lot further afield than may have been expected

Ada Frances Carroll
Birth Date: 1 Feb 1909
Date of Registration: May 1986
Age at Death: 77
Registration district: North Walsham
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 10
Page: 1634

Not so sure the son born in Luton is theirs:

Marriages Jun 1938
Bryant Maisie G Carroll Luton 3b 1157
Carroll Charles W A Bryant Luton 3b 1157

Rose

Unfortunately it looks as though Brian:

Births Dec 1932 (>99%)
Carroll Brian P Bryant Brentford 3a 387

died in 2004 in Surrey. 192 shows he was living in Farnham then.

Rose