Genealogy Chat

I assume the £130 would not include property?

For £6 you can apply for a copy of the Will and Probate.

Use this website:

http://www.justice.gov.uk/guidance/courts-and-tribunals/courts/probate/family-history.htm


It takes about 3 weeks to arrive.

Probate for the father............

Name: James Herne Wade
Probate Date: 27 Nov 1908
Death Date: 22 Sep 1908
Death Place: Devon, England
Registry: London, England

James Herne WADE of 8 Morton Crescent, Exmouth, Devonshire died 22September 1908.
Probate London 27 November to Catherine WADE, widow.
Effects £1497 12s 11d.


Catherine WADE of the same address died 19 April 1911.
Effects £1849 16s.
Gwyn

Thats fascinating , thanks. How comprehensive are the wills and probate? are the scanned images of the original documents?

Also is there a website where it is possible to see all the owners of a property? There is a manor house in Cornwall called Molesworth manor and it would be interesting to see if there is a connection.
Many thanks everyone !

The Wills and Probate are scanned copies of the original 'copies', be they hand written or typed.

You wouldn't get to see the original handwriting, rather a transcripiton made at the time saying "I hereby certify that this to be a correct copy."

They are as comprehensive as the deceased wanted them to be. It might be a simply one where everything left after debts and expenses is given to the surviving spouse, to something were individual named heirs (with their relationships, if appropriate) are bequested the 'The picture of the of lady which hangs in the Parlour' or various other objects!

Molesworth Manor appears to be a B&B nr Padstow. They have a website for bookings

http://www.molesworthmanor.co.uk/

If you were to contact them, they may know the history of the previous occupants.
Failing that, you could try Padstow Tourist Information Centre
http://www.padstowlive.com/
or Padstow Library
http://www.cornwall.gov.uk/index.aspx?page=24096

The latter, if they can't help, may point you in the direction of the Cornwall Archives.

You could try Cornwall-opc (on line parish clerks) volunteers who may have other suggestions for information.

For ref
http://www.molesworthmanor.co.uk/pages/page1.html

About Molesworth Manor
Molesworth Manor is a licensed guesthouse in a former rectory dating from the early 17th Century. It is situated in an attractive garden, 2 miles from the pretty fishing port of Padstow, and provides comfortable relaxed accommodation with a warm and friendly atmosphere. It has been awarded four diamonds by the English Tourism Council and is featured in the the Michelin Guide, the Good Hotel Guide and Alistair Sawdays British Bed & Breakfast Guide.

Have you read back through the peerage stuff I found you the link for? Was the Manor mentioned in it?

How about e-mailing the owners of the Manor directly?

You could contact the local history society. If you Google 'Padstow history' there are a lot of pages for you to look at including possible books for sale.

http://www.bodminmoor.co.uk/blislandboundarystones/pdfdialup/Chapter11.pdf

The Molesworths are mentioned on page 61.

If you do indeed link into them, you have a lot of history waiting for you. We should all get info like this on our family ;-)

Please keep us updated on what you find.

Jill

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

(putting "molesworth manor" in searchbox on above, has an item from it's early years)

Chris :)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molesworth-St_Aubyn_Baronets

I have found a few James wades who have been awarded medals on the ancestry site, what is the best way to establish his army number ?

I am so grateful to all who have helped with this, I have been back through the peerage info and looked at the Wikipedia link. There are many interesting avenues to explore . The st Aubyn family own st michaels mount in Cornwall which I have visited several times without any idea that there was a family connection .

"I have found a few James wades who have been awarded medals on the ancestry site, what is the best way to establish his army number ?"

For those of us who haven't been involved in the search, which James Wade are you refering to? YOB and POB?

If the records survive, they would be on Ancestry. As you probably know, a large %age of WW1 records were destroyed in WW2 bombing.

It was James Molesworth Wade , who served with Lawence of Arabia I was originally interested in as he married my ancestor Gwendolen Carter. I also believe his father was James Herne Wade , both were lt. Col. , the first in Royal Engineers, second in 90th light infantry .
I have not researched much military history before so not sure of the best places to look. Ancestry does have quite a few records for James Wade but I just wanted to be sure I had the right man .

James molesworh Wade born 1862 / 63

James Herne Wade born 1830

Extract from London Gazette 12 September 1917.

Manchester Regiment

2nd Lt. J.M. Wade to be Lt. with precedence as from 1st June 1916, next below Lt. H.G. Shatwell 9th August 1917.

There is a family tree on Ancestry.

Entry from Find My Past:

Boer War 1899-1902 - Soldier details

Name: WADE, James Molesworth
Rank: Unknown
Soldier number:
Unit: Royal Artillery
Notes:
Age:
Literary references: DULWISouth African War History of the Cameron Highlanders 124

Thanks Pam, Are there any particular websites that you can recommend for Boer War research?

As he was an officer he wouldn't have a number. There are no Army officers records online, although you can get a basic outline of his career from the London Gazette.

There are a number of officers files for WW1 for a J Wade at the National Archives (the index often doesn't give full initials and regiment) so it would be a question of looking at them all or by looking at the fuller index on the documentsonline website (digital microfilm which can be downloaded) to identify the correct reference. If he stayed in the Army after 1922 his record would still be wth the MOD.

PM me if you need more help!

Ahh, I see thanks,
I wasnt aware that officers didnt have numbers. That would explain why I couldnt find much info on them :-)

I will have a look on the NA site and documentsonline

http://www.reubique.com/reoff.htm

(a snippet on above, worth a google search with this family, and probably newspapers!)

Chris :)

Looks as though James Herne Wade was in the habit of purchasing military promotions.

From London Gazette Feb 1849

War Office - Feb 2nd

90th Regiment Foot - James Herne Wade to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Eager.

A number of similar articles in 1850s