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hi all
found a marriage on freebmd
mabel lucy handley
married 1907 nottingham
walter harris
or
henry richard gettliffe

on 1911 census i found
walter harris and mabel with daughter zena
dont think this one is the right one it says they have been married less then 2 years

so now cant make up my mind wether she married a harris or a gettliffe

mabel handley was born 1888 nottingham
thank you lorraine

I think that Henry Gettliffe married Ethel

1911

Name: Henry Richard Gettliffe
Age in 1911: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil parish: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street Address: 8 Cur Lane
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Cafe Keeper
Registration district: Nottingham
Registration District Number: 430
Sub-registration district: Nottingham North East
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Piece: 20542
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Richard Gettliffe 30
Ethel May Gettliffe 26
Henry Edward Gettliffe 3
Frances Martha Lanson 62

hi k
thank you
so i know now she married walter harris
but the only one i can find is the one with daughter zena

lorraine

Could this be the marriage of Walter and Mabel that you found with daughter Zena

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1909 (>99%)
CANTRILL Lewis Mansfield 7b 137
HARRIS Walter Mansfield 7b 137
SHOOTER Mabel Mansfield 7b 137
WHITTINGHAM Lily Mansfield 7b 137

Hello Lorraine, is it just the 2 years married that makes you think the family with Zena is the wrong one?

Is it Mabel Lucy's line that you are following? If so, what else do you know about her?

The 1911 family with Zena below does fit with the marriage I found in Mansfield as you say the area listed as only married under 2 years and Mabel Shooter in 1910 below

1911

HARRIS, Walter Head Married M 29 1882 Coal Miner Hewer Wrockwoodine Wood Salop VIEW
HARRIS, Mabel Wife Married F 24 1887 Nottingham VIEW
HARRIS, Zena Daughter F 0 (6 WEEKS) 1911 Newton Derbyshire VIEW

RG number: RG14

Piece: 20303

Reference: RG14PN20303 RG78PN1217 RD428 SD3 ED4 SN78

Registration District: Mansfield

Sub District: Blackwell

Enumeration District: 4

Parish: Blackwell

Address: Sherwood Street Newton Alfreton

County: Nottinghamshire


1901

Name: Mabel Shooter
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Elizabeth Shooter
Gender: Female
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Nottingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Catherine
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Nottingham North East
ED, institution, or vessel: 42
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 260
Piece: 3177
Folio: 91
Page Number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Shooter 38
Ethel Shooter 17
Mabel Shooter 14
Florance Shooter 12
Elsie Shooter 3

yes its mabel lucy who i am doing

mabel lucy handley born 1889 [sorry put 1888 in first post
daughter of herbert and sylvia handley got her in all census apart from 1911

got a message from someone saying that zena parents were walter harris and mabel shooter
as you say they married in 1909 which fits in with the 1911 census
lorraine

so the mabel shooter fits in the 1911 census as mabel harris

cant find another walter and mabel harris on 1911
lorraine

Do you know of any children to the marriage your Mabel & Walter?

no sorry i dont

lorraine

I don't know whether this is of any significance of or not

Name: Walter Harris
Age in 1911: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Sheffield
Civil parish: Mansfield
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street Address: 18 Thompson Yard West Gate
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Fruit Salesman
Registration district: Mansfield
Registration District Number: 428
Sub-registration district: Mansfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Piece: 20344
Household Members:
Name Age
Walter Harris 27
Edith Wilkinson 26

Although this Walter is married, on checking the image in the marriage part it states 'Parted'

There appear to be no children born to the couple post 1911

Lorraine, sorry if I'm missing something here - but do you know that your Mabel did marry a Walter Harris, or are you just trying to find what happened to her?

hi
my mabel
was born mabel lucy handley
so was doing the marriage on free bmd
walter harris
married
mabel lucy handley

so i have not got any prove was hoping to find something on 1911
but i am going to have to send for marriage cert i think
thank you to everyone who helped
lorraine

???????
Marriages Jun 1940

Handley Mabel L ... Thompson Bristol 6a 186

OR

Do you have a birthdate for 'your' Mabel Lucy..?

Name: Mabel Lucy Harris
Birth Date: 19 Sep 1889
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1981
Age at Death: 92
Registration district: Rutland
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume: 6
Page: 2348

hi gwyn
so sorry i didnt say thank you to you

all the best
lorraine

nnn

hi
still cannot find anything on these people

on freebmd theres a marriage of
mabel lucy handley to walter harris married 1907 nottingham

can anything else be found or is it a dead end
thank you
lorraine

Births Mar 1889 (>99%)
Handley Mabel Lucy Nottingham 7b 350



Marriages Mar 1907 (>99%)
GETTLIFFE Henry Richard Nottingham 7b 553
HANDLEY Mabel Lucy Nottingham 7b 553
HARRIS Walter Nottingham 7b 553
TWIGG Ethel May Nottingham 7b 553


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Ratcliff Row, St Mary, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Herbert Handley Head Married Male 36 1855 Carter Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Transcription
Silvia Handley Wife Married Female 35 1856 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Transcription
Edwin Handley Son Single Male 16 1875 Carter Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Transcription
Mabel Handley Daughter Single Female 2 1889 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Transcription
Elizabeth Handley Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
57 Seymour St Nottingham, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Herbert Handley Head Married Male 56 1855 Nottingham Carter Transcription
Sylvia Handley Wife Married Female 55 1856 Nottingham Lace Hand Transcription
Edwin Handley Son Single Male 34 1877 Nottingham Cab Driver Transcription
Ethel Bielby Granddaughter Single Female 15 1896 Nottingham Lace Hand Transcription
Rebbeca Bielby Granddaughter - Female 10 1901 Nottingham School

14 children born only 4 living