Genealogy Chat

Hi Folks,
I wonder if anyone can help me?
I have a relative who was awarded with the MM for Bravery In The Field
His miltary papers have info on the date the award was granted, but there is no indication on his record in relation to the act of bravery, or that a recommendation had been made.
Does anyone have any idea how long the whole process might have taken? (from recommendation to granting of the award)

Unfortunately, my relative died in a POW camp just days after the award was granted and added to his record.
Due to the time line, I expect he died unaware that he had been awarded this prestigious medal.

Thankies
Anne

It could have taken around 4 months or so until it appeared in the London Gazette. Very unlikely that there would be a citation ie the reason for the granting of the award, although it MAY be mentioned in the War Diary for the man's battalion.

Which battalion was he in? The War Diary might be online - £3-50 to download, if so. What was his name?

If you are lucky, it might be in The National Roll of the Great War, 1914-1918 in ancestry - these entries were submitted by the person himself or by his family.

http://www.wartimememoriesproject.com/ww2/allied/argyllsutherlandhighlanders.php
COULD LOOK ON THIS SITE

Unfortunately, my relative died in a POW camp

Based on the cause of death, he appears to have been executed.

:-S

tell us more <<<<<<<
never realised this also happened in WW1

He appears in The London Gazette Supplement for 13th March 1918, in a list of men awarded the MM, all for Bravery in the Field. As there are about 30 pages of names, it obviously wasn't possible to put details in every case.

On the pages before this list are the names of those being awarded a bar to the MM and in a few cases, a second bar. For these cases, full details are given, and make very interesting reading. Some of them are incredible.

Patrick Jordan is shown as a Private. Do you know when he was made Lance Corporal, because if he was recommended some time before March 1918, he may well have known about the award.

I'm posting this info,nothing to do really with your request, and you may already/ know of this, i thought you might be interested

The War Graves Photographic Project have photographed his headstone, and you can obtain a photo of this, however they do ask for a donation of£3-50 for one sent by email, or £5-50 for a hard copy sent in the post, the ones sent in the post are of professional quality, they do send other details but nothing to do with his records etc.

link

http://www.twgpp.org/information.php?id=2270953

Jordan, P
Cemetery: Grand-Seraucourt British Cemetery

Country: France

Area: Aisne

Rank: Lance Corporal

Official Number: 303365

Unit: 1st/8th Bn. Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders.

Force: Army

Nationality: British

Details:
M M 28th March 1918. Age 21. Son of John and Annie Jordan of Church St. Ramelton Co. Donegal. IX. C. 3.




Photograph and details by volunteer/s: David Milborrow





I also include this site, who state you can obtain a copy of his resting place for free, i personally have not used it, so i cant be sure what they have.But you have to contact them with the details etc

Link

http://britishwargraves.co.uk/page11.htm

I thought better you know this info than not, in case this is the sort of info you would like.

George

Hi George,
Thanks for this.
I do indeed have it all already..
I did not bother to get a photo of his final resting place. The CWG cert will do.

Anne

He is also listed on the site of www.findagrave.com
You don't have to register with the site to look, you can just put in his name and country of death, for example, into the search boxes, and it will come up.
However, if you wish to add information, flowers, photos etc you will have to register....but it's free.

K

Hi Anne,

You're welcome, and whilst I accept what you're saying, perhaps there have been updates since you last looked?
On the Find A Grave site I mentioned, there is reference to Lance Corporal P JORDAN (died Mar. 28, 1918) of the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders, buried at Grand-Seraucourt British Cemetery, Aisne, Picardie Region, France.
The plot number is IX C 3.

It's often a good idea not to put in too much information into a search box, and in this instance just 'P Jordan' will find him.

K