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Marriage certificates 1890

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JEH123

JEH123 Report 14 Sep 2011 11:54

Is it possible for a woman getting married in 1890 to lie about who her Father is on her marriage cert? On census record 1891 she is listed with her married name as the daughter of another person ( not the same name ). Who would you believe, the census or the marriage cert? ( I don't require a look up)

Janet

littlelegs

littlelegs Report 14 Sep 2011 12:10

on the census have they put daughter instead of daughter in law
lorraine

Nickydownsouth

Nickydownsouth Report 14 Sep 2011 12:17

And in answer to your question....yes people would lie on certs about their father, especially if they were illigitimate............rather than admit the it, they would name a "father".......have seen many threads with people trying to trace fathers named on marriage certs., but noone can ever find them!!


Nicky

Researching:
Furniss/Furness in Lancashire,Critchett in Devon and London, Keemish/Camish/ Kemish from Hampshire then Cambridge, Copper and Godden in Kent, Spink/Spynk in Norfolk and Cambridge

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 14 Sep 2011 12:21

"Is it possible for a woman getting married in 1890 to lie about who her Father is on her marriage cert?"

In answer to your question, yes it was.

Then as indeed today it is not a legal requirement to give any details about your father when getting married. It appears to have been very common for those born illegitimately to "Invent" a father when getting married to avoid embarrassment or stigma.

Researching:
Don't put off until tomorrow doing what you can do today. If you like doing it today you can do it again tomorrow. Be kind to your children for it is they who will decide which care home you end up in.

JEH123

JEH123 Report 14 Sep 2011 12:43

I always thought that you couldn't lie on a marriage cert but this now raises some questions for me. Thank you for your replies. Not quite sure where to go from here on this one. Will need to go away and have a think.

Thank you all

Janet

Thelma

Thelma Report 14 Sep 2011 13:00

I am working on a family now.
Francis Hookey took his stepfather's name and married as;
Francis Hopper,gave his father as Robert Till,who was his second stepfather.
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Another;
Annie Chambers gave her father as Thomas Chambers(deceased)
Real father Thomas Parker who was still alive.

Really anything goes.

DazedConfused

DazedConfused Report 14 Sep 2011 14:36

You will often find that illegitimate children will name a father I have several fathers called John >>>>>>>> but no record of these men exist.

Illegitimacy was such a taboo subject (yet so prelevant) that very few people would admit to have been born out of wedlock.

I have a wonderful father called Herbert Fowler - a Surgeon. Yeah right. They were from the Ponton Road estate Battersea one of the roughest parts by the river!

Researching:
We are all of us in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars, Oscar Wilde New avatar, my dad age about 3/4 months, could have been worse, it could have been the awful nude on a rug!!

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 14 Sep 2011 15:48

Well, if you are going to invent a father you might as well make it a good 'un! One of mine invented a father Alexander Longfield auctioneer. Yeah right.
jan

Researching:
Myatt, Hanks, Eccleston, Powell, Clungunford, Birmingham

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 15 Sep 2011 05:31

and they regularly lied about their ages,

especially if one was under age (ie, under 21), and they didn't have (or want to get) parental permission

OR if one was much older than the other


Plus they could lie about their marital status .................... and be married bigamously, OR indicate they were single when in fact they were widowed.



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

jax

jax Report 15 Sep 2011 05:43

My Ex was going to put father unknown when we got married, as he did'nt like him, even though he had been married to his mother and was 16 when he left

jax

Researching:
Nothing much