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hi.. can anyone help me please.. i'm new to all this and have already come to a massive brick wall. i am searching for my grandads dad, edward johnson. this may be a long shot as i dont have a lot of info.
i think edward may have died in 1957 ish. dont know his birth year, i am pretty sure his wife was called margaret and think she may have been from dumfries. edward lived in the ryton area, gateshead.
edward had 4 sons, robert, william, malcolme and edward.
william bendall johnson (1927-1978) is my grandad. he married georgina wilkinson (1927-1992) in 1949. they went on to have 6 children, ritson, stuart, keith, raymond, marie and june.
keith (my father) was born in 1957.
all of the above lived in ryton, gateshead/durham. apart from margaret.
any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you
rachel xx

This looks like your great grandparent's marriage:-

Name: JOHNSON, Edward Errington
Registration District: Gateshead
County: Durham
Year of Registration: 1906
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: 10A
Page No: 1243

On the same page is Margaret Jane Bendall.

This is them in the 1911 census:-

JOHNSON, Edward Errington Head Married M 31 1880 Coal Miner Hewer Durham Ryton VIEW
JOHNSON, Margaret Jane Wife Married 5 years F 26 1885 Kirkardbright Maxwelltown Resident

Address:
12 Runhead Terrace Ryton

Reference:
RG14PN30529 RG78PN1750 RD557 SD4 ED22 SN15

Kath. x

This looks like Edward's birth:-

Name: JOHNSON, Edward Errington
Registration District: Gateshead
County: Durham
Year of Registration: 1880
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: 10A
Page No: 917

Kath. x

wow that was quick.. thank you very much! i'v been looking for the last 4 days!
thank you again xx
rachel

I think this might be Edward in the 1881 census with his parents:-

JOHNSON, Edwd Head Married M 27 1854 Coal Miner
Seaton Delaval Northumberland
JOHNSON, Jane Wife Married F 22 1859 Dunston Durham
JOHNSON, Mary A Daughter Single F 3 1878 Ryton Durham
JOHNSON, Edward Son Single M 1 1880 Ryton Durham

Address:
Addison, Ryton

RG number: RG11
Piece: 5046
Folio: 63
Page: 36

Kath. x

thank you! how do you do it so quick?
do you know how i would go about finding edwards mother? without her maiden name? xx

already answered! xx

It's possible that this could be Edward and Jane's marriage:-

Name: JOHNSON, Edward
Registration District: South Shields
County: Durham
Year of Registration: 1877
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: 10A
Page No: 787

On the same page is Jane Ross McRobie.

You would need Edward Errington Johnson's birth certificate to confirm his mother's maiden name.

I use Findmypast for look-ups and am used to looking up births, deaths and marriages.

Kath. x

1891 Scotland Census about William Bendall
Name: William Bendall
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Elizabeth Bendall
Gender: Male
Where born: Dumfries, Dumfriesshire
Registration Number: 866
Registration district: Girthon
Civil parish: Girthon
County: Kirkcudbrightshire
Address: High St
Occupation: Saddler
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 62
Line: 13
Roll: CSSCT1891_400
Household Members:
Name Age
William Bendall 31
Elizabeth Bendall 27
William Bendall 6
Mary Jane Bendall 4
John Bendall 3

thank you for all your help :-)

dont think this is the same person im looking for lindsey, but thank you for your help anyway :-) xx

The 1891 Scottish census that Lindsey found has a Mary Jane Bendall listed.

It may have been a mis-transcription of Margaret Jane. The family are living in Kirkcudbrightshire which is what Margaret Jane gives as her birthplace.

Kath. x

ahh right, thank you.. this has all helped so much :-)

Hi Rachel,

I see most of your questions are answered :-) but you might like to note these for future reference.....they're free


www.durhamrecordsonline.com
www.freebmd.org.uk


K

thats great thank you karen :-) xx

hi every1...
i'm after a little more help please if any1 is free?

i cant find when edward johnson ( born 1880 ) died ?

i think it may be somewhere around 1940 but i have searched and its hard to tell which 1 is my edward.
if any1 could help me out it would be greatly appreciated :)

rachel xx

The only Edward E. Johnson death I can see around 1940 of the right sort of age in the north-east is this one:-

Name: JOHNSON, Edward E
Registration District: Newcastle upon Tyne
County: Northumberland
Year of Registration: 1941
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death: 61
Volume No: 10B
Page No: 145

Not sure how you could be certain it was "your" Edward though without buying the certificate.

What makes you think he died around 1940 because in your first post you said you thought he died around 1957?

Kath. x

i thought he died in the same year that my dad was born, but after talking to my dad i found out it was edwards wife, margaret that died in 1957.

dad said he thinks edward died when william ( edwards son ) was about 13... but cant be sure

thank you for your help xx

In that case I think the death above could be a good possibility.

This looks like Margaret's death:-

Name: JOHNSON, Margaret J
Registration District: Durham North Western
County: Durham
Year of Registration: 1957
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death: 72
Volume No: 1A
Page No: 451

Durham North Western registration district covered Ryton.

Kath. x

thank you very much, this does help a great deal,

do you know if i buy a death cert, would it have the cause of death on it? even in them days? xx