Genealogy Chat

Hi Joy KM,

I use this site;

rootsireland.ie

It's pay to view, but cheaper and easier than working around the Irish GRO.

Dee x

Maria....The marriage of I gave you for Harriet "Elizabeth" Lomas to Charles Lennox Stewart (b 12.6.1810)...Well here is something about him...This family was ..WELL CONNECTED...Baronets no less...!!!

Charles was the 6th son of Abraham Augustus Stewart and Francis Connor..

May 12, at her late residence, 70 Eccles Street, Dublin, Frances, relict of the Rev. Abraham Augustus Stewart, Private Chaplain to the late Duke of Richmond, Lord Liutenant, and Chaplain to the Royal Hibernian Military School, Phoenix Park, aged 88 years.He died 1812.....

Plenty more about them .....

When such records are found pre civil registration in Ireland (ie 1864 for births), please would you give the website where you found them? Many thanks :)

This also maybe of interest;

1858
Death
At Cappa Lodge, Kilrush, Mr. Samuel Lomas, former proprietor of the Vandeleur Arms Hotel.

This is possibly were the occupation of Lewis ties in.

Thank you for all this information - it is so nice to have some more information about my family.


Maria

Ireland, Tithe Applotment Books, 1823-1837
about Mr Lomas Name: Mr Lomas
County: Clare
Parish: Kilrush
Townland: Cappagh
Year: 1826

Ireland, Griffith’s Valuation, 1848-1864
about Samuel Lomas Occupier: Samuel Lomas
Lessor: Colonel C M Vandeleur
County: Clare
Barony: Moyarta
Parish: Kilrush
Townland: Cappagh
OS Page Numbers: 67
Year 1856

Has 3 houses.

Maria...Samuel is buried in Kilrush C of I Graveyard Grace St......It is also the Place of the "Vandeleur Family" Vault (who Samuel leased his property from)..The graveyard is unfortunately in a dreadful state although the Church was "restored" a couple years ago it is not used as a church.


113 LOMAS Erected by Frances Lomas in memory of her beloved husband Samuel Lomas who died 23 October 1858 (Location: Could be no 113)


Have not so far found anything relative to a Will etc...but at least you know he's buried here in the Co Clare

The further back you get the variations on the surname (as transcribed) can come up as Lomax/Lummax/Lumas etc...
That being said I cant find his death Reg either...!!

Hope you can find more info Eringobragh1916, you'd think that knowing the names of Lewis's parents would lead to a marriage.. no luck!! And I'm sure that William Powis's father was William........ no luck there with a marriage either.... so we're still minus a maiden name for the ladies at the mo.

1871 England Census
about Frances Lomas Name: Frances Lomas
Age: 85
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1786
Relation: Mother
Gender: Female
Where born: Nayland, Suffolk, England
Civil parish: Tottenham
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Edmonton
Sub-registration district: Tottenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 75
Piece: 1338
Folio: 40
Page Number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
Lewis Lomas 39
Anne Lomas 34
Lewis Lomas 7
William Lomas 2
Frances Lomas 85
Jane Adams 23


So we could possibly presume that Lewis/Louis' mother was sister to William Powis;

1851 England Census
about Harriet Powis Name: Harriet Powis
Age: 68
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1783
Relation: Mother
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Reyland, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Shoreditch
Ecclesiastical parish: Hoxton St John
Town: Hoxton
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Hoxton Old Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 27
Piece: 1536
Folio: 136
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
Wm Powis 44
Mary Powis 48
Harriet Powis 68
Louis Lomas 19
James Price 37
Mary A Palmer 16

Thanks for the above Dee..gives me a little more to go with...
Would imagine the Harriet who married Charles Lennox Stewart (1846) Kilrush is connected..
Maria does the above sound familiar at all....?

Found a newspaper obitury and it states;

" Lomas- On the 22nd inst, at Kilrush, Co Clare, Ireland Mr Samuel Lomas aged 68"

That's from;

Births, Deaths, Marriages and Obituaries .
The Morning Post (London, England), Wednesday, October 27, 1858; pg. 8; Issue 26476. 19th Century British Library Newspapers: Part II.

Category: Birth, death, marriage notices.


Sadly at the moment Cpo Clare do not have their parish records available on-line, however you can contact them at;

[email protected]

It states "Co. Clare offers a commissioned research service only.".


Dee x

Christina is correct as he gives his occupation as Wine Merchant;

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Lewis Lomas Name: Lewis Lomas
Age: Full Age
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Spouse Name: Ann Dunford
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 27 Aug 1859
Parish: St Marylebone
County: Middlesex
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: Samuel Lomas >>> Gentleman
Spouse Father Name: Henry Dunford

Witnesses; Henry Dunford and Mary Powis

Hi Maria,

this has to be him;

1851 England Census
about Louis Lomas Name: Louis Lomas
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Cousin
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Shoreditch
Ecclesiastical parish: Hoxton St John
Town: Hoxton
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Hoxton Old Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 27
Piece: 1536
Folio: 136
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
Wm Powis 44
Mary Powis 48
Harriet Powis 68
Louis Lomas 19
James Price 37
Mary A Palmer 16


Dee x

Are you sure he married Annie Bryan?

There is a marriage on the London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921, on Ancestry, for Lewis Lomas to Ann Dunford, in Marylebone in 1859.

If he is yours, his father's name and occupation may be given.

I don't have access to view the full details.

In 1861 Lewis and his family were living in Hackney London - so this could mean that his father may have remained in County Clare whilst he moved to London.

Samuel Lomas - I have a note from my mum that he may have served with Nelson on The Victory so this seems to tie in with the information that you have provided.

If Samuel was married in Ireland - please can you advise how I would find out the name of his spouse?


Thank you.

Maria.....Possible father/grandfather of Lewis...Only Lomas found in Kilrush for the time in question...Cappa. is found in Kilrush Parish

24 March 1818
Lease of a plot of ground at Cappa, Co. Clare, with
two houses for two lives and 21 years from March
1818 by John Ormsby Vandeleur to Samuel Lomas.
Yearly rent £3:10:6

The only other information I have is that he married Annie Bryan in 1859 in London.
Thanks

Maria...Do you have any other family info.
There were Lomas' in the area of Kilrush at the time in question..
Harriet/John/Eliz,