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Sorry Jackie, this is the nearest I can get !! But can't see them on any other Census (other than Jonathan is in 1881 census as a wid. and living on his own )

It is COOPER on the image

1851 England Census 1851 England Census
Name: William Caper
[William Cooper]
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Son
Father's name: Jonathan Caper
Mother's name: Alice Caper
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Ancoats

Household Members: Name Age
Jonathan Caper 35
Alice Caper 35
>>>>William Caper 7
Thomas Caper 2
Alice Jame Caper 1/12
Joseph Sellers 33 ---brother

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2226; Folio: 206; Page: 10; GSU roll
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Maybe Alice and Jonathans marriage

Marriages Dec 1837 (>99%)
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COOK Ann Manchester 20 404

>>>>>COOPER Jonathan Manchester 20 404

Cundey William Manchester 20 404
Hampson Charlotte Manchester 20 404
MOODY Edmund Manchester 20 404

>>>>>SELLERS Alice Manchester 20 404

WICKSON Henry Manchester 20 404
WINTERBOTTOM Hannah Manchester 20 404


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Barbara x

This is the only william cooper i can find with a father john ,but the age is way out..

There is another one, of similar age William thomas cooper but i can find him in 1881 when we know your William is in Ardwick so it can`t be him...

1851..
COOPER, John Head Married M 44 1807 Hand Loom Weaver Silk
Macclesfield
Cheshire VIEW
COOPER, Ann Wife Married F 48 1803 Winder For Weaver's
Macclesfield
Cheshire VIEW
COOPER, Joseph Son Unmarried M 19 1832 Hand Loom Weaver Silk
Macclesfield
Cheshire VIEW
COOPER, William Son Unmarried M 16 1835 Hand Loom Weaver Silk
Macclesfield
Cheshire VIEW

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Nicky

he seems to change his job...1891...


COOPER, Wm Head Married M 41 1850 Mechanics Labourer
Macclesfield
Cheshire VIEW
COOPER, Eliz Wife Married F 32 1859
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW
COOPER, Temperance Daughter F 12 1879 Scholar
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW
COOPER, Annie Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW
COOPER, Wm Son M 6 1885 Scholar
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW
COOPER, Harry Son M 4 1887 Scholar
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW
COOPER, Grace Daughter F 1 1890
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW
DARBYSHIRE, Wm Boarder Married M 36 1855 Mechanics Labourer
Dairycoates
Lancashire VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
3171 Folio:
119 Page:
36

Registration District:
Chorlton Sub District:
Ardwick Enumeration District:
43 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Marks

Civil Parish:
Gorton Municipal Borough:
Manchester Address:
8, Edgeley Street, Gorton, Manchester County:
Lancashire




Nicky

For ref. 1901 ..

COOPER, William Head Married M 52 1849 Machine Packer
Macclesfield
Cheshire VIEW
COOPER, Elizabeth Wife Married F 42 1859
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW
COOPER, Annie Daughter Single F 18 1883 Stitcher In Packing Warehouse
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW
COOPER, William A Son Single M 16 1885 Lock Oiler In Carriage (Dor)
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW
COOPER, Harry Son Single M 14 1887 Railway Nipper
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW
COOPER, Beatrice Daughter Single F 10 1891
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW
COOPER, Norman Son Single M 6 1895
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW
COOPER, Frank Son Single M 4 1897
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW
COOPER, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 2 1899
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
3685 Folio:
116 Page:
14

Registration District:
Chorlton Sub District:
Ardwick Enumeration District:
82 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Gorton St Marks

Civil Parish:
South Manchester Municipal Borough:
Address:
95, Margaret Street, South Manchester County:
Lancashire



Nicky

the witnesses were john and sarah braddock their ages at marriage werewilliam was 29 and elizabeth was 20 openshaw
ty

Hi jackie
Are there any more "clues" on the marriage cert ? Who were the wittnesses--Williams age--and his address ?

Barbara x

Have you got William in 1891, 1901 and 1911 censuses?
Which of his children is your ancestor?
Thanks

hi barbara
ty for that info i know all those details im trying to find his mother just cant find anything on mother but his father is called john ty jackie

Is this the right William in 1881 census ?

Household: For 1881 Census

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William COOPER Head M Male 32 Macclesfield, Cheshire, England Railway Guard
Elizabeth COOPER Wife M Female 22 Manchester, Lancashire, England
Temperance COOPER Daur Female 2 Openshaw, Lancashire, England
Albert BRADDOCK Boarder U Male 18 Linthwaite, York, England General Laborer

Source Information:
Dwelling 2 Henry St
Census Place Ardwick, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341931
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3899 / 126
Page Number 41

on marriage cert he is a railway man and his dad a labourer and his dad called john

Hello Jacqueline - what is William's occupation on the marriage certificate and that of his father John?

im trying to find the mother of william cooper 1849 maclesfield cheshire he is married to elizabeth braddock i have wedding certificate which says his father is called john having trouble tring to find in censes can anyone help please
ty jackie