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Many thanks Kathleen, LD, & Maddie, I think you've solved the problem.

Regards Mike

On Findmypast the transcription is Wales:-


WALES, John Head Married M 51 1800 A Laborer Whittlesey
WALES, Caroline Wife Married F 48 1803 At Home Harrow Weald
WALES, Mary Ann Daughter Unmarried F 15 1836 At Home Harrow Weald
WALES, Caroline Daughter Unmarried F 7 1844 At Home Harrow Weald

Address:
Rose And Crown, Harrow

RG number: HO107
Piece: 1700
Folio: 118
Page: 17

Kath. x

Well spotted LD.

Kath. x

The 1851 census, the original image says Hales

Name: Caroline Walos
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: John Walos
Mother's name: Caroline Walos
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Harrow Weald

Civil parish: Harrow On The Hill
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Hendon
Sub-registration district: Harrow
ED, institution, or vessel: 1f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 50
Piece: 1700
Folio: 118
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
John Walos 54
Caroline Walos 48
Mary Ann Walos 15
Caroline Walos 7

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SNAP - LD.

Kath. x

Could she have been born earlier than you thought? (people often lie about their age on marriage certificates. If the 1861 census above is the right person this could be her birth:-

Name: HALES, Caroline
Registration District: Hendon
County: Middlesex
Year of Registration: 1844
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: 3
Page No: 211

Hendon Registration district covers Harrow Weald.

Kath. x

This maybe her birth

Births Mar 1844 (>99%)
HALES Caroline Hendon 3 211 Scan available - click to viewAdditional information available - click on Info button

Is this her in the 1861 census (just for info):-

STEINMETZ, John Henry Brother In Law Married M 44 1817 Merchant Australian &... Indian Insuarance
Hackney Middlesex
STEINMETZ, Ann Grace Wife Of Above Occupier Married F 28 1833
Lambeth Surrey
STEINMETZ, Herbert Son M 5 1856 Scholar
Hampstead
Middlesex VIEW
STEINMETZ, Grace Kennard Daughter F 2 1859 Scholar
Hampstead Middlesex
KENNARD, Henry H Visitor Unmarried M 52 1809 Banker
City of London Cripplegate
BOILEY, Sarah Servant Unmarried F 28 1833 Nurse
Hockwold Devon
HAILES, Caroline Servant Unmarried F 17 1844 Under Nurse
Harrow Weald Middlesex<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Address:
Woodlands Estate S Kennard Esq Abroad, Harrow On The Hill

Kath. x

Do you have her on a later census with her husband? What is her married name? There may be information on a later census that helps in finding her in the 1851.

I can't see her at the moment.

Kath. x

1871 for info

1871 England Census about Caroline Hales
Name: Caroline Hales
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Visitor Serv (Visitor)
Gender: Female
Where born: Harrow Weald, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Milford
Town: Milford
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Lymington
Sub-registration district: Milford
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 33
Piece: 1175
Folio: 39
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Hewitt Hennard 60
John Henry Minnerly 54
Ann Grace Minnerly 38
Grace Kennard Minnerly 12
Mabel Emily Minnerly 7
Mary Milner 54
Mary Grainger 38
Mary Julia Church 19
Ann Overton 17
Caroline Hales 26
Walter Isobe 24
James Narroway

Hi need a lookup on 1851 census for a Caroline Hales, Fathers name John a Gardener (from marriage cert). She was born 1847/50 I have it as Harrow weald middx but it could be London, can anyone help please.

Regards Mike