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I HAVE GOT THE RIGHT DEATH CERTIFICATE
Thank you everyone that has helped me.
The death certificate I have just received this morning was the right one.
He died in St. Barts Hospital just before the 1891 census
the right address is on the certificate
11 Cuba Cottages
Angel Rd.
Edmonton Thank you Margaret

Chris yes that is the right marriage for Williams daughter.
as you see it says father deceased so his death must be somewhere
Margaret

Sorry about the wrong marriage..

I see william Battrum died in 1904


Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

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Deaths Dec 1904 (>99%)
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BATTRUM William T S 34 Edmonton 3a 264

and Emma married again in 1907


BMD Search result details
Civil Registration event: Marriage


Name: BATTRUM, Emma Maria
Registration District: Edmonton
County: Middlesex
Year of Registration: 1907
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: 3A
Page No: Help 700
MarriageFinder™: Emma Maria Battrum married one of the following people

BRAGG, William

PLUMMER, George Henry

KINGSTON, May Elizabeth

Ignore my last two posts....I missed your last one saying you had both marriage certificates :-D

William deceased by 1892...

Name: Emma Maria Poole ...11 Cuba Cottages
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Spouse Name: William Thomas Spencer Battrum..Labourer...10 Edinburgh Road
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 10 Apr 1892
Parish: St James, Upper Edmonton
County: London
Borough: Enfield
Father Name: William Poole ...Deceased
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Knight Battrum ...Painter

Witnesses. Thomas Knight Battrum and Emily Battrum

Chris

The marriage for Emma Poole to Joseph Walden, that Sue in Leeds found, is on Ancestry and doesn't appear to be the correct Emma.

Name: Emma Poole
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Spouse Name: Joseph Walden ...Labourer
Spouse Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 13 May 1894
Parish: St Dionis, Parsons Green
County: London
Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Father Name: Henry Poole ...Labourer
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Walden....Labourer

Chris

Jes I have both daughters marriage certificates and it says father
deceased on both. When I get the next certificate i have oredered if it is not the right I will call it a dafor ref: this the eldest daughters marriage


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Marriages Jun 1892 (>99%)
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BATTRUM William Thomas S Edmonton 3a 375

POOLE Emma Maria Edmonton 3a 375
This 1892 he was deceased then
Margaret

Margaret,

Have you got one of the daughters marriage certs to see wether it says deceased where the father's name will be.????


Deleted the marriage info as Margaret put on the marriage for Emma.

Is it possible the couple spilt up, although I can't see William Poole post 1881

nudge

Hi, Yes that is the right people Emma his wife remarried to a
Thoams Williams and I do have her death and know where she was buried.
This is a puzzel surley his death was registered.
Margaret

Is this your William and Emma,


1881 census - household transcription
Person: POOLE, William
Address: 15, Angel Road, Edmonton

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
census
image

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POOLE, William Head Married M 44 1837 Labour
Haverhill
Suffolk
POOLE, Emma Wife Married F 31 1850
Haverhill
Suffolk
POOLE, Emma Daughter Single F 8 1873
Haverhill
Suffolk
POOLE, Kate Daughter Single F 6 1875
Haverhill
Suffolk

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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
1388 Folio:
34 Page:
4

Registration District:
Edmonton Sub District:
Edmonton Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Edmonton Municipal Borough:
Address:
15, Angel Road, Edmonton County:
Middlesex



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What year was William born???

Do you know what became of Emma?

If you know where she is buried, perhaps it is with William, so finding her might lead to his burial, which in turn might help with a death date.


Gwyn

I have the certificate for William Brooks Poole an it is not the right one snd The
other one William George Pooles was a bit to early unless the last child born was not his child but do not beleive so also as Far as I know his names just William
I have orderes another one for a William Poole died in 1891 registered A. M.and June qtr. but at London C although I have ordered it I am not sure as she was a widow in the 1891 census
Thank you Margaret

Have you considered these deaths for your William?

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Jun 1887 (>99%)
Pooles William George 55 Edmonton 3a 147

Deaths Mar 1888 (>99%)
POOL William Brooks 55 Edmonton 3a 207

this is the birth certificate I have
Albert Walter Poole born Jan 1889
Mother E mma Poole formally Ransom
Father William Poole
Living at Cuba Cottages Edmonton Middlesex
Also his baptism is on Ancestry as well
Margaret

Does the birth certificate of the last child definitely say who the father is. If he were deceased it would say so. Alternatively if the father isn't mention, as happened with one of my relatives, I found (eventually) the 'father' had died 5 years before the last child was born. -jl

Do you want to post the details for a look up? You never know what a fresh pair of eyes might find.

Andy

My brickwall is a death certificate, The last real evidence of him is the
1881 census where he never told the truth of how old he was.
He was born before registration started but I do have a record of his birth.
He appears on the 1841 census I have his marriage certificate where once again his age was not a true one.

His wife was a widow in the 1891 census but their last child was born in
1889 I have the certificate but that does not prove the father was alive then.
I have looked for nine years for this death certificate but no luck.
thankyou Margaret